Cathy Goessman Webboard User Reg: 12-03-2007
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I attended a seminar put on by Jeff Gellman last weekend and it's made me realize just how much I hate working in a situation where I'm forced to do all positive reinforcement training. It KILLS me to not be able to suggest things that I know would fix their issue in about 5 minutes. I've decided to start my own business and I'm having trouble coming up with a name that expresses what I do. I'm temporarily starting it under just my name but I'd like something that expresses the fact that I'm a balanced trainer.
Your reputation is what will sell you, not the name.
Make a pamphlet with your philosophy of dog training.
#1 would be the importance of recall with distractions. ME makes a good video about his philosophy of dog training. No corrections until the dog KNOWS the command for certain. Be fair and the dog will do well.
Not sure if there is any special name for Michael Ellis's methods but he uses corrections with his positive reinforcement training.
To many think that Positive reinforcement has no room for corrections.
I took one of my GSDs to SAR training, CDX, SchIII, HT, TT, CGC with no physical corrections.
CAN it be done? Yes!, but the vast majority of people and dogs will be better served with a balance of positive AND corrections.
I'll go as far as I can working with other dogs but there is always a good time when corrections can be used effectively and not create issues with the dog.
Operant conditioning in it purest definition absolutely uses physical corrections.
To many believe that it means no physical corrections and that's wrong in so many ways.
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Quote: Bob Scott
CAN it be done? Yes!, but the vast majority of people and dogs will be better served with a balance of positive AND corrections.
I'll go as far as I can working with other dogs but there is always a good time when corrections can be used effectively and not create issues with the dog.
Yep, I admire the work some positive trainers are doing. Susan Garett amazes me. Her "positive but NOT permissive" philosophy is great.
I just don't see the point of working through an issue for WEEKS or MONTHS if a simple well timed correction can solve it in one session with minimal stress. Neither do most dog owners.
I though about naming my business: "No BS Dog Training" but figure certain segments of the population would find it a bit off-putting.
The first time I ever taught an obedience class in the early 80s I found that out when I made the comment about most of the dog's problems are the turd stuck to the other end of the leash.
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Quote: Bob Scott
Not sure if there is any special name for Michael Ellis's methods but he uses corrections with his positive reinforcement training...the vast majority of people and dogs will be better served with a balance of positive AND corrections.
I'll go as far as I can working with other dogs but there is always a good time when corrections can be used effectively and not create issues with the dog.
Operant conditioning in it purest definition absolutely uses physical corrections.
Too many believe that it means no physical corrections and that's wrong in so many ways.
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Quote: Cathy Goessman
Yep, I admire the work some positive trainers are doing. Susan Garett amazes me. Her "positive but NOT permissive" philosophy is great.
I just don't see the point of working through an issue for WEEKS or MONTHS if a simple well timed correction can solve it in one session with minimal stress. Neither do most dog owners.
I though about naming my business: "No BS Dog Training" but figure certain segments of the population would find it a bit off-putting.
Only those who NEED It The MOST would take offense
"Tried & True Dog Training" (might sound too old-fashioned)...
"Do It Right Training for Dogs & Owners" (might be too wordy)...
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