 4 years on Raw and all of a sudden ellergic?
#401940 - 08/30/2016 06:52 AM |
Webboard User
Reg: 09-08-2011
Posts: 9
Loc:
 Offline |
|
So my sister in-law has a AM bulldog/dogo mix that she has been feeding raw for four years and all of a sudden dog is allergic to beef, and chicken, fairly bad as she starts to scratch alot when given it, seems to be worse with any kind of Chicken. The thing is, she was giving veggies and vitamin’s to help balance her dogs food. It seemed to all start when she got an ear infection and had to be sedated to have it fixed. This does not seem to make sense as this breed usually thrives on raw and has issue’s with dry dog food which she never had. Also dog only gets the Rabies shot, as she doesn’t believe in vaccinations either.
Has anyone seen this before and is there a way to reverse this? Don’t ask a vet, they just seem to push dry dog food.
|
 Top
|
|
Re: 4 years on Raw and all of a sudden ellergic?
[Re: OC Donnelly ]
#401955 - 08/30/2016 11:14 PM |
Webboard User
Reg: 04-29-2004
Posts: 3825
Loc: Northeast
| Offline |
|
Chicken is most often the one that dogs are allergic to. But honestly dogs have food allergies less frequently than environmental allergies. Also most often allergies don't show up in dogs until after 3 years of age.
I would suggest an elimination diet if you truly don't suspect any other allergin. It's a pain in the butt to do...but it is the only way to truly rule out a food.
I would most likely try feeding other foods...duck, pork, lamb, goat, Turkey(it's a fowl..but it is a totally different animal & dogs that don't tolerate chicken can usually eat it.) I would only introduce 1 New food for 6 weeks to see if tolerated, before adding ANYTHING else new.
MY DOGS...MY RULES
 |
|
Top
|
|
Re: 4 years on Raw and all of a sudden ellergic?
[Re: OC Donnelly ]
#401956 - 08/30/2016 11:14 PM |
Webboard User
Reg: 04-29-2004
Posts: 3825
Loc: Northeast
| Offline |
|
Chicken is most often the one that dogs are allergic to. But honestly dogs have food allergies less frequently than environmental allergies. Also most often allergies don't show up in dogs until after 3 years of age.
I would suggest an elimination diet if you truly don't suspect any other allergin. It's a pain in the butt to do...but it is the only way to truly rule out a food.
I would most likely try feeding other foods...duck, pork, lamb, goat, Turkey(it's a fowl..but it is a totally different animal & dogs that don't tolerate chicken can usually eat it.) I would only introduce 1 New food for 6 weeks to see if tolerated, before adding ANYTHING else new.
MY DOGS...MY RULES
|
|
Top
|
|
Re: 4 years on Raw and all of a sudden ellergic?
[Re: OC Donnelly ]
#401957 - 08/31/2016 09:50 AM |
Webboard User
Reg: 01-23-2015
Posts: 1619
Loc: Brazil, Bahia
| Offline |
|
Agree fully. I've changed to raw diet including some vegetables, but only adding one single new food for a while. So I could observe, if this new food could be the reason of an ungood reaction. My Lab-Mix reacted with diarrhea after having given carrots to her, mixed in a egg glop. On eggs she had not reacted at all foor at leat a week. Only the carrots were new. I tried it for two days again and ther was no diarrhea again.
Sometimes it is just something which is uncommon for dog. Look also for the consistency of her excrements. a bit more soft is normally just transitional character. If fluid you should consider to consult more rapidly the Vet.
Some times the reason can really be an allergie. Raw chicken is known for this for quite a number of dogs.
I'd do it exactly as Anne recommends. There are so many possible factors. The best is change only a single one for a certain time.
In case this doesn't help - Vet!
“If you can keep your head when all around you are losing theirs, then you are a leader” – Rudyard Kipling |
|
Top
|
 Re: 4 years on Raw and all of a sudden ellergic?
[Re: OC Donnelly ]
#401959 - 08/31/2016 01:16 PM |
Webboard User
Reg: 06-09-2016
Posts: 48
Loc: Kentucky
| Offline |
|
I have had recent allergy issues with my raw-fed 16 month male GSD. I will tell you the all-of-a-sudden issues probably aren't so sudden! Ear infections can be an indicator of allergies, and any additional immune system stress - like the sedation or any antibiotics used to clear up the ear problem - can cause a cascade of allergy/immune system issues.
It can be an huge aggravation to find the cause(s), and usually if there is one, there is another! I wouldn't wish allergies on anyone, sorry your sister-in-law has to go through it. 
|
|
Top
|
|
Re: 4 years on Raw and all of a sudden ellergic?
[Re: OC Donnelly ]
#401961 - 08/31/2016 02:23 PM |
Webboard User
Reg: 01-23-2015
Posts: 1619
Loc: Brazil, Bahia
| Offline |
|
This is an excellent contribution, Christina! I - until now - have not had great problems. but I'm well aware that this can differ so individually. It can create for the dogs and ourselves an awful mess to find out what really is the reason.
Raw food, nowadays, is not any more raw food how we consider it to be. Nothing is any more how it should be and we must have a very thorough eye on everything we feed our dogs with.
“If you can keep your head when all around you are losing theirs, then you are a leader” – Rudyard Kipling |
|
Top
|
|
Re: 4 years on Raw and all of a sudden ellergic?
[Re: OC Donnelly ]
#401962 - 08/31/2016 04:07 PM |
Webboard User
Reg: 12-28-2005
Posts: 2316
Loc:
| Offline |
|
FWIW, additives to meats (brines for instance) can cause issues. I'd look into that angle as well.
But it's also the height of allergy season in many places. So environmental allergies are a very real possibility.
|
|
Top
|
|
Re: 4 years on Raw and all of a sudden ellergic?
[Re: Mara Jessup ]
#401963 - 08/31/2016 06:09 PM |
Webboard User
Reg: 06-12-2007
Posts: 1039
Loc: So. California coast
| Offline |
|
Is the only reaction itching? Because food allergies are less than 8% of all allergies - flea is number 1, followed by environmental and then food. Are you sure there are NO fleas?? Even one can cause a dog to go into an itching frenzy - we didn't think we had fleas several times but then found the tiniest amount of flea dirt upon doing a combing. I would tell her to do the flea combing and put white sheets with lights out for a few days to make sure there aren't any.
And where is the dog itching? is there any digestive upsets - there often is with a true food allergy.
|
|
Top
|
|
Re: 4 years on Raw and all of a sudden ellergic?
[Re: OC Donnelly ]
#401966 - 09/01/2016 06:39 AM |
Webboard User
Reg: 09-08-2011
Posts: 9
Loc:
| Offline |
|
Thanks everyone, Lori I will check and thanks for the info.
Funny thing is I have a Rottweiler who is now 6, started raw diet at about 4 years thanks to my sister inlaw opening the idea up. Found a butcher who gives me 50lbs of meat scraps, so it can be anything from chunks of beef cuts/fat to pig feet, pig cuts/fat, chicken bones and turkey sometimes. All I do is add rice with sometimes veggies peels or apple peels and the dog seems to be very healthy. Some changes when I switched were more energy, way less over heating when working causing him to crap, now way less. The great thing it cost me 20.00 for the 50lbs and 10.00 for 15lbs of rice, and it lasts about 3 months which turns out the be way cheaper then dry dog food which is garbage.
|
|
Top
|
|
Re: 4 years on Raw and all of a sudden ellergic?
[Re: OC Donnelly ]
#401970 - 09/01/2016 06:00 PM |
Webboard User
Reg: 06-12-2007
Posts: 1039
Loc: So. California coast
| Offline |
|
Have you read books on feeding raw? Not sure that scraps and rice is going to be nutritionally sound. You need to have the right ratios of bone and meat, plus some organ meats for iron, etc. Rice isn't really even needed - it's just filler. So I'd be asking how much rice are you feeding too. If you search on this sight in Ed's articles you can find great stuff on how to feed raw, and there are sample meals too. Just a thought!
|
|
Top
|
When purchasing any product from Leerburg Enterprises, Inc. it is understood
that any and all products sold by Leerburg Enterprises, Inc. are sold in Dunn
County Wisconsin, USA. Any and all legal action taken against Leerburg Enterprises,
Inc. concerning the purchase or use of these products must take place in Dunn
County, Wisconsin. If customers do not agree with this policy they should not
purchase Leerburg Ent. Inc. products.
Dog Training is never without risk of injury. Do not use any of the products
sold by Leerburg Enterprises, Inc. without consulting a local professional.
The training methods shown in the Leerburg Ent. Inc. DVD’s are meant
to be used with a local instructor or trainer. Leerburg Enterprises, Inc. cannot
be held responsible for accidents or injuries to humans and/or animals.
Copyright 2010 Leerburg® Enterprises, Inc. All rights reserved. All photos and content on leerburg.com are part of a registered copyright owned by Leerburg Enterprise, Inc.
By accessing any information within Leerburg.com, you agree to abide by the
Leerburg.com Privacy Policy and Terms of Use.
Previous Topic
Index
Next Topic.jpg)
