So Domino is awesome. Her fault is grumbling..put her in the crate, she grumbles. I don't put her in there unless I have to, as I want her to be with me.
She gets the same way when being put in a command, such as from a sit to a down. She wants the treat. And when I use a signal with the command, such as pointing down while saying down, she growly grumbles. Right now, when she does this, I end the training, which ends the treats, which stops the grumbling.
She also does this when I correct her for spazzing on Jazz. I have the prong on her now, as with the flat collar, she could care less if you snap the leash, she wants him to stop wussying around. Now with the prong, she stops mid yappy, and looks at me, to which I take a few steps back, she follows, ignoring him, and I reward. Makes it easier, as now when he comes into the room, she looks at me, and I reward. Just making sure I am doing things right!
On a high note, my military brother is getting holidays, and since I am not heading south this year, I am footing his flight bill to get him up here for his leave I am excited, tho I do have to pay my 9yr old son 15 bucks to give up his room for 8 days
Back to the question, what would you do for the grumbling/growlyness? Quit and wait til the next session? Or correct?

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So Domino is awesome. Her fault is grumbling..put her in the crate, she grumbles. I don't put her in there unless I have to, as I want her to be with me.
She gets the same way when being put in a command, such as from a sit to a down. She wants the treat. And when I use a signal with the command, such as pointing down while saying down, she growly grumbles. Right now, when she does this, I end the training, which ends the treats, which stops the grumbling.
She also does this when I correct her for spazzing on Jazz. I have the prong on her now, as with the flat collar, she could care less if you snap the leash, she wants him to stop wussying around. Now with the prong, she stops mid yappy, and looks at me, to which I take a few steps back, she follows, ignoring him, and I reward. Makes it easier, as now when he comes into the room, she looks at me, and I reward. Just making sure I am doing things right!
On a high note, my military brother is getting holidays, and since I am not heading south this year, I am footing his flight bill to get him up here for his leave I am excited, tho I do have to pay my 9yr old son 15 bucks to give up his room for 8 days
Back to the question, what would you do for the grumbling/growlyness? Quit and wait til the next session? Or correct?

Just for myself personally, I would choose not to correct for her "back talk" in these early days -- You've been having such GREAT success with her training thus far & with her intro to the prong ... I would simply continue to cut Domino a little slack on expressing her feelings, in hopes that "this too may pass" (but if it never ends & you feel it is a truly problematic issue, then her rumbling can still be dealt with later).

It's not really clear whether it's an aggressive growling or if it's just vocalizing. Some dogs vocalize without even knowing they are doing it - Drift can be like that sometimes.. correcting that will have no effect since it's unconscious.

If she's showing other aggressive type behaviors, like lunging, or shows an aggressive body language - stiff body, steely eye, etc, I would shut it down right quick. I understand building the bond, but you have to establish that there is no aggression PERIOD from the first day.

Fenn is new to me and is not allowed to show any aggression towards the other dogs or the cats - it's the number 1 rule in my house and I establish it from the first moment the dog sets foot in the house... it has not harmed the bond we have, if you are concerned with that. Dogs with strong personalities need to know from the first what will be allowed and what won't - you can't be wishy washy on some issues... aggression being the most important in my home - with 5 dogs, I can't let any aggressive attitudes slide...

Just my opinion, take it for what it is... I have NO experience with Terriers, so Bob may be the one to defer to here

Kel

ETA: I do try to redirect the behavior before correcting, but will not hesitate to correct if the dog does not redirect immediately. As pack leader, I am the one who decides when aggression is warranted, not the dogs.

Thanks Candi and Kelly!
I don't think it is out right aggression. She does get snappy around Jazz, I correct her right away, she than grumbles at me, and I just put her in a sit.
They are not allowed near each other at all, as he won't even make eye contact with her, and avoids her at all costs.
It is actually quite funny to see such a big boy trying to melt into the floor when she trots past.
We have come far from the first day, even tho she still tries to go sniff at him, I can call her back immediately, and she is now dragging a leash rather than me holding the end she is my little buddy!

Sounds like she's doing fine, and you are doing great - since I wasn't sure if it was aggression or not, I did want to put it out there how I deal with aggression with new dogs

Keep it up, and all will be well!!

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It's not really clear whether it's an aggressive growling or if it's just vocalizing. Some dogs vocalize without even knowing they are doing it - Drift can be like that sometimes.. correcting that will have no effect since it's unconscious.

Just my opinion, take it for what it is... I have NO experience with Terriers, so Bob may be the one to defer to here

Kel

ETA: I do try to redirect the behavior before correcting, but will not hesitate to correct if the dog does not redirect immediately.

Re: "vocalizing"...

Yes, sometimes an entire Breed is famous for its various Vocalizations -- For example, Akitas frequently exhibit a rumbly-grumbly type of "talking" that is easily mistaken by Newbies as aggressive growling ... My own Akita did not happen to display this common breed trait, but experienced owners of Akitas who "talk" like that all swear it is NOT a warning sign of an impending bite

Dobermans are also famous for engaging in "Dobie Talk" which is likewise non-aggressive -- My two don't happen to do it, but when they play with each other in the yard (always with me in close attendance) my male sounds like he's in "the dog fight of the century" while my bitch is a silent wrestler ... She simply ignores his scary-sounding vocalizations as they play Tag You're It, and since nothing ever comes of his ferocious noise-making, I have concluded that it's HARMLESS in his case

Her's is more like an I don't wanna, not aggressive. She postured once when I was putting her bone on her bed and got an immediate correction and has not done it again. She follows me everywhere so it is easier to keep an eye on her. I love her to bits!

As mentioned above thee are a number of breeds that are very vocal with growling.

I've known numerous Rotties that could soun like they were going to eat you.

As to terriers. a number of mine sounded like the devil in a well when they played together.

When dogs get serious with one another its often a lot of noise and just mouthing in the beginning.

There is often a speed to this aggression that you don't often see with just hard, noisy play.

Up in the 60s and 70s again this week so hopefully the bad stuff is gone for the year........other then thunder storms, the occasional tornado, maybe a bit, or a lot of hail.

This is not during play sadly. All hell broke loose tonight. She crapped while I was changing the kids sheets, and when I grabbed her midcrap to bring her out she showed her colors, and snarled at the leash the the whole trip out. She has a leash problem, and I will be fixing that now.
She is grumbly when being told to do something, such s tonight, before the crap, I asked for a down before treating, she grumbled. It was the same going into the crate grumble. We are going to switch around a bit here, and when I have to get wood or do a quick shovel, crate her, so she sees its a part of life, and you will be out again when I am done.
Jim says I am spoiling her., I just tell him my down is quicker than his, and mine isn't eating poo