Carolyn Pike Roman Webboard User Reg: 03-20-2007
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Just curious- I've seen different video clips where people are using a ball-on-a-string as a tug-reward. I was looking at them for possible future use, but after visiting a few manufacturer websites noted that most of them have warnings saying not to use it for tug. Is that just CYA? Are there any that are recommended for that purpose?
The new tug we got from LB is working really well and I don't think Greta has the 'out' down well enough to be switching it up with a ball, but we might try one at some point.
I have used them in the past for reward but I think a couple of reason not to is without good training the dog can often start grabbing the rope and that can create training issues.
I've also had the rope pull out of the ball and once that happens the rope needs to have the knot cut of and a new knot tied.
Not difficult but a pain once it Happens a few times and the hole starts wearing/tearing.
Christina Stockinger Webboard User Reg: 01-23-2015
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Absolutely, Bob. A ball on a string is not the ideal tug toy for eveery dog. My Lab-Mix almost always grabbed the string. It might also be, that the ball i had chosen was to big for her mouth, so she preferred the string.
Generally she has the desire to have string-like things in her mouth. For example before a walk she always grabs the leash. In between I can say "drop it" and she does. But unfortunately she keeps testing me each time. I also had tugs with handles and she preferred to grab those and I also caught some little bites.
Then I restarted with a tug without handles and she leaarned ist quickly Could my mistake also have been, that I presented the tug not exactly enough? Though with my one Pit, who tugs, I had never such problems and I've never caught a bite (until now!).
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Duane Hull Webboard User Reg: 09-23-2011
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Michael Ellis has a fairly new video that specifically covers ball on a string and how to present it so that the dog does not target the rope.
He gives the same lesson in Advanced Concepts of Motivation. I've seen IB address targeting a ball-on-a-rope, also.
I taught my dog based on their methods. She tried targeting the rope in the beginning, but we worked it out in short order ( mostly because I didn't like getting bit when she missed).
Christina Stockinger Webboard User Reg: 01-23-2015
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I have the DVD Advanced Concepts of Motivation, I have also have an IB online course! It's a shame, isn't it ? I have such a big DVD and Video library, that I concentrate on some few things. Your answer has motivated me to go back asap to those you mentioned. I'm sure there is something incorrect with my presentation, just wondering why it works with Socks and less with Bruxinha. I've not yet tried the more complicated versions of presentation (to the side, from behind, over head etc.) First the simplest one needs to be reliable enough. Thanks a lot for the reminder, Duane. Sometimes one has treasures at home and neglects them for too much time.
I guess, I will have to take clips in order to to see what a make differently with Bruxinha than with Socks.
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