KNPV is Dutch, the breeds you mention are German, and aren't the best place to look for candidates for this discipline. They're not the best place to look for candidates for police work in general even in their home land they're an exception among law enforcement dogs.
with my experience here in texas, the schutzhund clubs won't talk to you unless you have a gsd and know what you are doing...no first timers. that's one reason i am trying french and mondio ring with my giant, that and the guys involved are really good. i have even seen clubs with bordeaux mastiffes (sp) in these sports, but not schutzhund. it may also have to do with price, the giants seem to be quite expensive.
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Originally posted by brandonRay: with my experience here in texas, the schutzhund clubs won't talk to you unless you have a gsd and know what you are doing...no first timers. that's one reason i am trying french and mondio ring with my giant, that and the guys involved are really good. i have even seen clubs with bordeaux mastiffes (sp) in these sports, but not schutzhund. it may also have to do with price, the giants seem to be quite expensive.
Not *all* SchH clubs in TX <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
We welcome anyone, newbies to ol' timers of the sport.. as well as welcoming any breed.
At the moment, we have Mals, dobes, GSDs, American Bulldogs and a Bandog!!
I agree that there is certainly too much politics bullshit in a lot of SchH clubs..
Don,
Eventually you will find Rottweilers in KNPV. Last year one certified PH1 with a very good score! They are out there, but they are few and far between!
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J Lopes
i apologize, i should have said the clubs that i talked to or tried to talk to in my area were very difficlut. i don't want to name names on the list to hurt anyone's feelings. the breeder up north that i got my puppy from was surprised at the reaction or lack of that i got from local clubs. i would love to check out some clubs in the central texas area though. i guess i just assumed that most of the clubs were like the three that i had tried to talk to.
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This is just my opinion, but I think that you'll find that KNPV is really hard physically on a dog. The speed and force with which the dogs hits the helper is *awesome* to see. Most Mals are considered a lighter weight dog and can tolerant the impacts easier than a larger breed dog.
I had a GSD with a KNPV I title and his spine was fused by age seven, which I still think was mainly because of the work that was done to achieve that title. I would have no problem buying a Mal with a KNPV title, but I would be leery about a larger breed that had undergone KNPV training. And even with the Mal, I would be doing LS spinal xrays before purchase, along with hip and elbow films.
There is a female dobermann called Massay vd Berkensingle who is PH1 MetLof. She is linebred 3-3 on Ali Langenhorst. There are some males who are KNPV titled and I think one is in the States.
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