Normally: tug, soft sleeve, tie out, always winning etc.
Now i need some control. Obedience part is fine, but she flips when she sees helper.
I can use force but that is balancing act between staying in drive, staying in place and me getting bitten for too much correction in wrong time <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
My club once we get the bite, the love of the bite that is we start doing trades. Trades are the beginning of the out. I would not worry about the out quite yet and control is a later thing as well. Check your decoy out as far as stimulation I would bet he's doing to much too soon I see this all the time. hurry hurry hurry bites you so hard in the ass later on it REALLY SUCKS have him tone down his body language and speed of movement, get rid of the whip if you are useing one, have him keep his motion fluid and not stiff and to keep his body turned to the side abit so he's not so frontal. A good decoy should be able to manipulate the dog a bit. The other thing to keep in mind is that even though she's twenty months old she's young in the bitework and your decoy has to keep that in mind Good Luck!!!!
If she were my dog, and I was seeing this at this stage of the game, she would quit seeing that helper for a while.
She is a lot more likely to comfortably work in prey with you at home than she is with a helper. Let the dog mature some, work on grips and prey drive yourself and try again in a couple of months.
First, I would take Deanna's advice! But you probably wont, so I'll tell you how I got attention and control on the prot. field with a dog that went nuts to bite the helper.
Use the bite as the reward! Make the dog fus around the helper with a sleeve on. The dog will be watching the helper and not giving attention.
The minute the dog looks at your face give the bite command. If you do this three or four times each session, after three or four sessions the lite will come on and the dog will look into your face and fus nicely for maybe 10 to 20 seconds befor you give the bite command. Just remember the decoy must be ready as he will not know when the bite is coming.
Ron
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