|
can Schutzhund dogs be a family pet
#36600 - 05/08/2003 06:48 PM |
Webboard User
Reg: 03-07-2003
Posts: 50
Loc: up state new york
 Offline |
|
I would like to know if you can have a dog trained in prey drive to do bite work and still be a family dog.I was told not to train my dog this way(Schutzhund) because it can ruin a good dog. I was also told not to feed raw meat at all to my dog. The blood in beef I am told makes a dog more aggressive. Is this true or am i getting bad advice from a poor trainer
David T Klinetob
to worry is to pay interest on a debt you dont even own |
 Top
|
|
Re: can Schutzhund dogs be a family pet
[Re: david klinetob ]
#36601 - 05/08/2003 07:41 PM |
Webboard User
Reg: 11-28-2001
Posts: 3916
Loc:
| Offline |
|
Holy crap, the raw meat lie. I'd thought that was DEAD a long time ago.
A raw diet in no way can make your dog more aggressive. It can give your dog the nutrients it needs and can increase health and energy levels, but aggression. . . .ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!!!!!
And Schutzhund training will not affect your dog's ability to live as a house pet and companion.
That is a myth propageted by people that don't understand the training and/or don't want people interested in the training because they don't know dick about it.
Totally FALSE, I've got a very sweet SchH II male that lives in our home. . .as my KIDS DOG. He is a creampuff!!
I've also lived with a SchH III male that was NOT a creampuff, but he got along very well in our home.
Don't ever talk to that trainer again, they are very very wrong. In fact, the raw meat thing makes me think they are CRAZY and uneducated to the extreme.
Hang out here on the board and you can get some info on good trainers in your area and learn about what Schutzhund is all about.
|
|
Top
|
|
Re: can Schutzhund dogs be a family pet
[Re: david klinetob ]
#36602 - 05/08/2003 07:41 PM |
Webboard User
Reg: 07-12-2001
Posts: 215
Loc: Boulder Creek, CA
| Offline |
|
Pure crap, David. Pure crap. Run away from that "trainer" as fast as you can.
Others on this board have far more experience than I, so I'll just note that my 2-1/2 year old GSD is in training for Schutzhund (his sire was the world champion in 2000), and while he does tend to be a little testy around other entire male dogs, he has never, ever shown even a hint of human-oriented aggression outside the context of bitework.
And I feed him raw, too.
Dave Trowbridge
Boulder Creek, CA |
|
Top
|
|
Re: can Schutzhund dogs be a family pet
[Re: david klinetob ]
#36603 - 05/08/2003 09:05 PM |
Webboard User
Reg: 01-14-2002
Posts: 966
Loc: louisiana/texas
| Offline |
|
david, what discipline of training was this trainer versed in?? I haven't heard that old wives tale of NOT FEEDING RAW MEAT since I was a kid. (that's many years ago)
Stay away from this person and anyone associated with their training METHODS.
Do as Robert and Dave suggested, hang out here and learn from the VAST KNOWLEDGE POOL that frequents this Discussion Board.
OH! I have a 10 month old female that will be a Schutzhund trained K-9. Also a 7-1/2 yr. old personel protection GSD male that gets along with everyone. (unless directed otherwise)
Butch Crabtree
kennel vom Avoyelles |
|
Top
|
|
Re: can Schutzhund dogs be a family pet
[Re: david klinetob ]
#36604 - 05/08/2003 10:04 PM |
Webboard User
Reg: 05-20-2002
Posts: 389
Loc:
| Offline |
|
Ditto the above posts and tell your trainer that I not only feed bloody raw meat to my dog, I also add gunpowder and hot pepper to it!
<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
(p.s. I'm only propagating the myth...I get that raw meat attitude all the time, even from my own butcher :rolleyes: since no amount of reason will win, I go for the wind up!)
Maggie |
|
Top
|
|
Re: can Schutzhund dogs be a family pet
[Re: david klinetob ]
#36605 - 05/14/2003 12:27 AM |
Webboard User
Reg: 03-12-2002
Posts: 732
Loc: Hudson Valley of NY
| Offline |
|
Wow, I can't beleive that someone would tell you that and call themselves a trainer.
I will tell you that my dog is a VERY serious female GSD, we have been doing personal protection with her for 5 mos. now,( she just turned 3 in March)and she is a fine family dog as well.
I've done decoy work with her in a local parking lot and outed her, put her in a down position, and then my kids have come along and thrown themselves on her while we were still in the parking lot, and she is oblivious to them. She ignores them as if they were flies buzzing around her face!LOL ,she is very good natured to my family, but she is all business if need be, and she knows her job( protection)
No one ever said life was supposed to be easy, life is what you make of it!! |
|
Top
|
|
Re: can Schutzhund dogs be a family pet
[Re: david klinetob ]
#36606 - 05/14/2003 04:28 PM |
Webboard User
Reg: 02-18-2003
Posts: 12
Loc:
| Offline |
|
Go and visit your local SchH Club. See for yourself. Many SchH dogs live as family pets. There is probably one titled dog laying on my couch at home right now napping, and another that comes to work with me every day and couldn't be happier to greet everyone that comes in the door. If she was dangerous in anyway, I could not have her here!!!
Really, ask this so called trainer how many SchH dogs he has actually had contact with.
|
|
Top
|
|
Re: can Schutzhund dogs be a family pet
[Re: david klinetob ]
#36607 - 05/14/2003 11:57 PM |
Webboard User
Reg: 12-12-2001
Posts: 338
Loc:
| Offline |
|
Schutzhund dogs come in all shapes and sizes, particularly in the matter of intensity. With out paralleling another topic, there are many different types of dogs within the sport. A schutzhund three title is not universal in the sense that all Sch3 dogs are not painted with the same attitude brush. Despite that my male was a sch3, he was from Uran v. Wildersteiger-Land lines should never be compared with Karlo Peko Haus, Gento v.h. Larwin, Timmy b. Nachtbarschaft, Mink v.h. Wittfield, Andy Bildsaule,Sagus Busecker Schloss, etc. My dog made a fine family pet despite being annoyingly persistant in his desire for attention. I cannot begin to imagine any of the aforementioned dogs in the house with kids. I think it depends on the individual animal.
As far as the raw meat thing, my wife stopped feeding me raw meat and it hasn't made me any nicer of a guy........
The tree of Freedom needs to be nurtured with the blood of Patriots and tyrants. Thomas Paine |
|
Top
|
|
Re: can Schutzhund dogs be a family pet
[Re: david klinetob ]
#36608 - 05/15/2003 09:36 AM |
Webboard User
Reg: 03-07-2003
Posts: 50
Loc: up state new york
| Offline |
|
Thank you all for the help. I talk to him and he traines for personal protection. I think he wants to be the only person in the area that knows how to train dogs. I asked him about Schutzhund and he told me that hw won't train dogs for that sport sh!t. I have been looking for a local club <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> . If i can not find one I will have to travel as far as Albany New york. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> It is just over an hour away. You all have been helpful and i hope to have a dog that i can put a SCH 1 on. Best to all. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
David T Klinetob
to worry is to pay interest on a debt you dont even own |
|
Top
|
|
Re: can Schutzhund dogs be a family pet
[Re: david klinetob ]
#36609 - 11/05/2003 09:32 PM |
Webboard User
Reg: 11-03-2003
Posts: 1
Loc:
| Offline |
|
What are some of the drawbacks of a neutere GSD? I have a neutered GSD and now I'm thinking of Schutzhund. What overall limitations will the dog have? What activities can he participate in ? He's nine months.
|
|
Top
|
When purchasing any product from Leerburg Enterprises, Inc. it is understood
that any and all products sold by Leerburg Enterprises, Inc. are sold in Dunn
County Wisconsin, USA. Any and all legal action taken against Leerburg Enterprises,
Inc. concerning the purchase or use of these products must take place in Dunn
County, Wisconsin. If customers do not agree with this policy they should not
purchase Leerburg Ent. Inc. products.
Dog Training is never without risk of injury. Do not use any of the products
sold by Leerburg Enterprises, Inc. without consulting a local professional.
The training methods shown in the Leerburg Ent. Inc. DVD’s are meant
to be used with a local instructor or trainer. Leerburg Enterprises, Inc. cannot
be held responsible for accidents or injuries to humans and/or animals.
Copyright 2010 Leerburg® Enterprises, Inc. All rights reserved. All photos and content on leerburg.com are part of a registered copyright owned by Leerburg Enterprise, Inc.
By accessing any information within Leerburg.com, you agree to abide by the
Leerburg.com Privacy Policy and Terms of Use.
Previous Topic
Index
Next Topic
.jpg)
