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#40615 - 01/31/2003 09:32 AM |
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I recently got this video (very good by the way) but have one problem (so far) with implementation. My GSD (3 yrs old) simply wants to bite the rope on the ball and not the ball itself. I followed the advice in the video and have a short rope (using less than 4") but my dog prefers the rope to the ball - leaving me with several small dings, dents, and holes in my hand (see the bite inhibition thread for why not more damage <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> ) He will hold and grip the ball when he gets it, but prefers the rope.
Any suggestions on getting him to focus on the ball and not rope as I do need my hands for work.
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#40616 - 01/31/2003 10:40 AM |
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try using a different ball. Maybe a softer one or a harder one. Does the same thing happen with a tug?
I hate to say it but I think it is part of learning how to use the ball in this work that you will end up with a few bloody spots. It doesn't sound like a targeting problem with your dog as much as a dislike for the ball itself.
If you just throw the ball what does he pick up? Ball or string?
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#40617 - 01/31/2003 11:06 AM |
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It doesn't seem to be a dislike for the ball - when he gets it he's happy to hang on. As a matter of fact, when he got it and we were tugging, the loop on the rope ripped he was pulling so hard. I think he's figured out that the rope moves less than the ball and is easier to catch. He's either really smart or really dumb - not sure yet. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> He also goes for the rope/handle of some jute tugs I have.
Tonight I'll throw him the ball and see if he picks it up or grabs the rope. That, and I'll use some work gloves to avoid the worst of the biting. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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He also likes biting the rope on his kong. He does like biting tennis balls, but these are no good for 2 reasons - 1, as stated in the video the chemical reaction between the adhesive and saliva can damage the enamel on his teeth and 2, generally after 2 bites, the tennis ball is broken <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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Stan, I know exactly what you're talking about. My new dog does the same thing. She always goes for the rope part, if not my arm. I have been wondering if it's a maturity thing, or just her style? I'm thinking of switching to a rope tug.
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#40620 - 01/31/2003 01:10 PM |
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I had another thought (it didn't hurt too much).
What about putting a longer rope on the ball, maybe 5 feet or so? Use the ball on a rope like you would playing with a cat......then perhaps the ball will become the focus, and the rope can be shortened later on? Anybody have any thoughts on that?
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#40621 - 01/31/2003 01:14 PM |
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I'll double check, but my recollection is that the video specifically says not to use a long rope as this results in the dog biting the rope and not ball.
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#40622 - 01/31/2003 01:15 PM |
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Hmmm, interesting. I don't have the video. Well, it was a thought.
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#40623 - 01/31/2003 01:30 PM |
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This happened with my in-laws' dog too.
Hmmmm.
I have the puppy video, and I don't recall anything being said about having a short string specifically. But I do recall Ed *having* a short **STRING** on a ball (not a thick, fun-to-chew rope). With rapid jerky movements, I presume a thin string is just a blur, and the only visually discernable thing is the ball. Maybe? And it looked like he kept damn near all of the string within his hand as he teased, using the bare mininum of play in the string in order for ball movement.
What an irksome problem. I can only assume the same thing will happen to me when I get MY dog. So let's get to the bottom of this!
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#40624 - 01/31/2003 01:40 PM |
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Stephen, the video we are talking about is not one in the same. With a puppy the length is ok, since it takes a little while before they will figure out the fastest way to catch it is to grab the string. With my pup I put it on a very long cord, with an adult dog I have about 6 inches to play with. Most of that is in my hand.
Bottom line is that you will get better with the ball and the dog will get better with targeting. If it gets really bad and you feel the dog IS doing it on purpose, simply end the game. With a drivey dog that can be punishment enough. Of course it stinks for advancing in training.
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