This is not a debate of whether or not this is an ethical practice or not.
I have noticed several members on this board stating that the SV requires culling of litters with anything over 6 puppies. That is completely incorrect. I don't know if this was a practice a long time ago, but I downloaded the SV regs and it states that a litter of over 8 must have a surrogate Mom to raise the remaining puppies. Schutzhund USA states in its regs that mother may raise all pups she whelps. The SV does state that there may be culling for genetic reasons and these must be conducted by a Vet and by injection. So I don't know where some of you get this information about culling and the methods used therein.
Culling is a common practice among many breeds. That is why you don't see many white boxers, or mis-marks in other breeds. Often people don't want these types of "sports" with their kennel name on them. This is more common in Show lines. Your reputation for good genetics is part of where your reputation comes from. If you have dogs that throw mis-marks or disallowed colors, it decreases the value of your line for breeding by customers. People don't want their names on the papers for these dogs. Often if the puppy isn't "bucketed" it is sold with out papers and with a threat if the new owner ever tells where the dog came from.
If you can't be a Good Example,then You'll just have to Serve as a Horrible Warning. Catherine Aird.
My question is related to culling. It has more to do with natural selection.
Why do humans intervene with the mother and her pups at birth? Why isn't nature allowed to take its course with the pups so the ones that were meant to survive do and the ones that aren't don't? I don't like to see pups die but wouldn't this lead to stronger, hardier dogs in general with fewer genetic defects? That is nature's way - the strong and strong willed survive.
I'm obviously not a breeder, but can anyone tell me if it would even make sense to do this?
What I have found is that if a mother rejects a very new puppt or kitten, it doesn't matter what you do they will die. I have gone as far as tube feeding them, and it doesn't matter. If the rejection occurs early, first day or two, there is some problem and the animal will die no matter what is done. The other problem that comes up is in very large litters that have one or two that are not able to feed enough. the Mother doesn't reject them they just aren't dominant enough to feed. With these if you make sure the offspring are rotated and maybe give some supplemental feedings they will do fine.
If you can't be a Good Example,then You'll just have to Serve as a Horrible Warning. Catherine Aird.
I see it is turning in one of those debates anyway. That was not my intent. I just wanted to clear up what seems to be a misconception by several on this board in regards to the Breed Warden coming out and telling people they must kill all litter mates over 6, that is completely false and someone else stated it is done then and there which is also false as the SV states it must be done under the supervision of a vet and must be PAINLESS, unless the breed warden is also a Vet. Yes, culling does happen for genetics but not litter size! But then again, German breeders don't cull their coated puppies. And Schutzhund USA doesn't even mention culling (unless I missied it). I just hate it when people make it seem as the breed wardens in Europe go around clubbing puppies over the head for a litter of over 6. :rolleyes:
I do seem to remember this was a German practice, it may well of changed and if you say so lanegirl I certainly wont contradict you, but as for what went on in Germany during the '30s and '40s.... they would of had their hands full murdering civlians and POWs, no time for killing pups. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
Don't talk about Kangeroos!! I got no sleep last night due to my dog's constantly "warning" me about the approach of a "killer" Kangeroo. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
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