I have a young malinois that I am currently training to be a pesonal protection dog.
I have extensive experience in training dogs but I have never trained pp dogs. I am
also a deer hunter and have always wanted to train a dog to help me recover wounded
game. I compete in field trials with treeing walker coonhounds and german shorthaired
pointers. I would appreciate any advice on whether I should attempt this and, if I do, how I
should go about it. Also, any type of advice for a first time malinois trainer.
P.S. I must admit, I am not going at this totally alone. The breeder of the malinois has
offerred to help me once the mal has progressed through the bite work training. He has
produced several working police dogs.
Just do what he ask you to do. There is plenty of advice and video tapes on this board that will help. This is just a reply I mis-read your inital message and I thought you wanted to teach Mals to hunt down wounded game. Sorry. This is just fill in.
good luck.
I guess I was right you do want to hunt wounded prey with Mals. I think there are better hunting breeds to do that with. The Mal probably could do it, but I think total recovery of the game, or alot game meat may be destroyed. It may can bark on a human that will stay still, but on deer that will try to escape with its last breath. I question good luck.
Goodogu, what a bunch of crap. Where the hell are you getting your information about Malinois from? Here's a news flash, one of the many uses of the Malinois in Norway and the Netherlands is to track wounded game. Just a few months ago there was a guy from Norway, I believe, that posted a link to his page showing just this kind of work.
How da heck did dey get dem damn dawgs, yaknow dos Malanois, tu not chase n' kill da sheep? Hows you gonna do dat praytell? Dem dawgs is straight killas.
How do you teach a Malinois to do a bark and hold? How do you teach a Malinois to not chase and eat other dogs during the long down under distraction? How do you keep your Mal from chasing cats or small dogs. Uhhh. . .let me think. . .TRAINING? I have absolutely ZERO doubts that you can track wounded game with a Mal.
He won't have to dull his knife??? You're a little confused about Mals I think.
For the record, and from what I've learned here is that contrary to popular belief hunting dogs, coonhounds, bloodhounds, aren't necessarily the authority for tracking.
The only reason why these breeds are used is because they are convenient to alot of people because of their ability to get along with other dogs and their non-aggressive nature.
The Shepherd breeds can track just as well. Many times better than the hounds because of their obedience and ease of training. The Labs I'm sure do as good too.
Malinois make superior trackers I hear. They might be the most ideal S&R breed. The reason for this I hear is because they are so energetic they want to work like crazy which makes a good S&R dog.
This is what I -THINK- I've learned, is this about right? And if I'm wrong on some of it where at, I'm going to be writing the correct answer down so give me the facts, lol.
One thing to keep in mind would be Fish and Game laws in your state. In many states useing a dog for chasing down deer (wounded or not) would be illegal.
If you can't be a Good Example,then You'll just have to Serve as a Horrible Warning. Catherine Aird.
Excellent idea, malinoisinkansas. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> While there are specialist game trackers that find a lot of use in the north European countries (in Denmark for example, it's been illegal to hunt without a dog since '93), nearly any willing dog with a good nose will do a credible job with the right training.
If having your dog mistaken for a deer-running stray and shot is a likely problem, training him to track on a long line will solve that. Unless you're doing Schutzhund in which case you may have to think of another solution.
Best of luck and I'm interested to see how it goes.
thank you for your advice. Using dogs to track wounded or healthy deer is illegal in kansas
but we are working on that right now. It makes more sense to use dogs to recover the
many deer that are wasted every year. I personally do not take questionable shots, so I
would rarely need a dog for this purpose. I have a few friends who aren't so careful and it
would be nice to help them salvage wasted meat and my mal and I would enjoy the challenge and exercise. I will respond when she starts making progress. thanks
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