Has anyone ever seen this before? Are these realy Mals or is this some gimmick?

http://members.aol.com/blackmalinois/id32.htm

A black Mals now thats a good looking dog. I've read that they do come in black though the regular color is more common.

Could be real. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Yea there are black ones and they look almost as good as Dutch shepherds <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

here is one:
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another pic:
too fast...oh my God i forgot to close my mouth <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

One of our club trainers has one, photos are

here .

Well, he's actually a cross.

My son has tervs. He says that in most of the world, what "kind" of belgian a dog is depends on coat type and color, rather than breeding (the way it is in the USA). So you can get litters with some tervs, some mals, some black dogs.

I'd be interested in where the black got combined with the short hair. Mal x black dog cross?

I know a lot of AKC people who think recessive black dogs carry bad-textured "linty" coats when they show up in terv (long coated sable) litters. The few I've seen looked fine to me <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

I, too, think the black mals look pretty hot. I saw one from Canada a few years back and he was a nice looking boy.

It's an unpopular (to say the least) view around AKC people to say that the belgians ought to be varieties instead of breeds. One of the first things they start talking about is black mals, followed by the idea that if the black dogs were "crossed" with tervs, you wouldn't be able to spot the "defective" recessive blacks... but I haven't seen what's so bad in the ones I've seen anyway.

And then there's those beautiful gray tervs. Well, I think they are <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Originally posted by Walt Moody:
One of our club trainers has one, photos are

here . that is a big one!

How fast is he? I mean if he goes like smaller ones he must be a bitch to catch...

Ivan,
The dog ( his name is Rex ) is like warp speed in dog fur. And brutally powerful. I am not decoy enough ( hell, I'm hardly *man* enough ) to work this powerhouse!

We were working his out, and just as an experiment, the handler just let him hold onto me when I went passive. He held on without changing his crushing grip for eighteen ( 18 ) mins......

This is literally a once in a life time dog.

I'm not really a Mal guy, but I think this info I have is correct.

There are definate breeds, or more correctly, types of Belgians. . .and it is not based on the type of coat. It is based on the region that the dog came from, and over the years the breeders have taken their type in one direction (for show people, that means coats).

The major differences are just the coat genes, but also some minor differences in body style now as well. If you bred a Gro with a Terv, and got black dogs. . .hardly anybody would be able to tell the difference.


BTW, that black coats in the Belgians are dominant.


This I know for sure, black Malinois have a Groenendael in the woodpile somewhere. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

My brother has a black Malinois, KNPV PH1, nice dog. . .pedigree isn't worth the paper it is printed on. LOL