Brad Gargis wrote 07/18/2002 02:28 AM Bingo v. Ellendonk #44081 - 07/18/2002 02:28 AM
Brad Gargis Webboard User Reg: 02-09-2002 Posts: 659 Loc: Offline	Anytime I'm surfing the web and I'm looking at Dobermans, I can't help but notice this dog is always mentioned and seemed to have quite a reputation. If it's possible what was this dog like, did anyone see him work? What were the names of other superior working Dobermans in the past that some of the old veterans have seen?
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RobertR wrote 07/18/2002 03:37 AM Re: Bingo v. Ellendonk [Re: Brad Gargis ] #44082 - 07/18/2002 03:37 AM
RobertR Webboard User Reg: 04-16-2002 Posts: 168 Loc: Offline	There is a book being translated called Ottmar Vogel about Dobermanns. You can ask the lady who runs dobermann Kennel Ascomannis about the book because she is translating it; it covers dobermanns like up to 1985 or something, and has info about good working lines etc. Some other good dobes were: Satan V. Ellendonk Hertog Conan v. Manensheide Mannix v.d. Weyermühle Gina v.d. Weyermühle Kleo v.d. Weyermühle Ali vom Langenhorst Guy's Hilo vom NordenStamm If you ever get to talk to manfred lerner he was the last person to breed to bingo, so he would know. I believe he is in Spain, or Czech. Robert
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dobeonguard-Steve wrote 07/19/2002 10:06 PM Re: Bingo v. Ellendonk [Re: Brad Gargis ] #44083 - 07/19/2002 10:06 PM
dobeonguard-Steve Webboard User Reg: 08-27-2001 Posts: 50 Loc: Offline	I have never seen him. But he was the first dobermann to score a 300 on his SchIII and was a super producer. He throws very hard and extremely stable dobermanns. They are compared to a good working line GSD. These lines are the only known Dobermann lines to produce PSDs. Its hard to find any good Dobermann without him in there.
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