dobermans vs gsd's
#44640 - 01/04/2005 07:59 PM |
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Hello
I was just wondering temperment wise what is the main differance between these two breeds? I know what is a herding breed and one is a guarding breed but for anyone who has had lots of experience with both how would you consider them differant? also which would you consider to have the higher energy level harder to keep as a house pet? just curious thanks
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#44641 - 01/05/2005 03:59 AM |
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It all depends on the individual dog really. You really need to get a better idea of the bloodlines of both breeds, find some breeders and then ask those questions again. There are different traits in every bloodline. What exactly are you looking for? But when it comes to the best working dog, its the Dobermann hands down! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
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#44642 - 01/05/2005 09:02 AM |
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when it comes to the best working dog, its the Dobermann hands down This statement is at best utter shi** - <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
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#44643 - 01/05/2005 09:14 AM |
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Steve Foss if that was the case then why isn't the Dobermann represented in the Protection dog arena not the pretty boy/Super elite-control Shch stuff.
To both Steves, I'm talking about the down and dirty street protection stuff. The Dobermann is a good dog if you can find one that will work, but to say hands down its better then a GSD.
To Mr. Foss You gotta to be outta of your beaming mind, take a look around!!! People say the GSD has deminshed but take a look around the GSD is still in mix be Patrol, protection or Shch like work especially compared to the Dobbie. The Rottie is looked at more favorably, get real.
I've worked six months GSD puppies that have more drive then this 1.5 year old red Dobbie, but I won't say GSD puppies are better WDs then near adult dobbies.
I seen 1 or 2 good dobbies, properly cut they are good looking high enegry dogs, but they are mostly a thing of the past when they were good working dogs (sounding as absurb as U, probably with more truth).
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#44644 - 01/05/2005 09:42 AM |
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A lot of Dobes lack focus, I see more of the sighthound traits in them. I have seen skittishness around people they know when in close proximity,(not biting just wierd all of a sudden) I am not a breed snob, but the show people really screwed the working people over not just here but in europe. As a pet, I think they have more interesting personalitys than shepherds, but until a lot of people come to the breed rescue it's the shepherd for work.
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#44645 - 01/05/2005 01:15 PM |
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A good dog is a good dog, no matter what breed it is...period. There are good dobermanns out there but for every good dobermann, there are about 10,000 shpeherds. Having had both I can say that there are good and bad things about both. My dobermanns were more sharp than my sheps, and had waaaaaay more energy and had better personalities, clowns so to speak. The sheps had a more plain personality, but were calmer and more relaxed. As far as protection, they are both great if you get the right dog. I had no complaints about neither one. Although I must admit that the best PP dog I had was a dober <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
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#44646 - 01/05/2005 01:53 PM |
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I think that why there are so many breeds so each match the personailty and life style of it owner. Thats why I like GSDs and Rotiies just as laid back as you want until its time for business, both have traits thats I like over the selfish, weather and skin sensitive Dobermanns. Ann you are right if you find a good one he is pretty good if you can keep him healthy and Big "IF" you can find one that will work.
A Dobbie acts too neverous and bouncy for me, its like having a teenager on LSD in you home. Some times you can tell him to go to his room and he does other times he may bark and growl at you. He'll do it if you ask him right. Dobbies hold a gruge if you discipline them hard, even if just.
The GSD will happily obey the Rottie may just down were she stands, until you tell her thats not your room. The GSD and Rottie will just roll it off like Dad just had a bad day, all forgiven, you're the Man lets play!!!
This is another reason I don't like Mals in the house, if I wanted a Cat to walk on my counters I'd get a Cat, Mals like to climb.
Give me a good ole GSD or Rottie any day, I'm just a good ole souther boy, with my Dogs, fishing rod, and my Jeep.
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#44647 - 01/05/2005 03:23 PM |
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OK from what i have read and learned it seems almost everyone will agree that their are many more better working pp gsd's out there then doberman and that most of the time gsd's are better at protection (just seeems this way from what people have to say about both breeds) But in general i have heard that dobermans usually have a higher energy level and tend to be more distructive house pets is this true? (I know every dog is differant but we are talking just in general or majority).
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#44648 - 01/05/2005 11:53 PM |
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Like the old saying goes "to each his own" I personally don't like rotts, its hard to get them to do anything, they are too slow and too lazy for me. I am a high energy person myself so I don;t mind a high energy bouncy dog lol
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#44649 - 01/06/2005 01:04 AM |
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To paint any breed with a broad brush is foolish! To say a Dobermann is skittish or to say the GSD is a better working dog is foolish. Yes there are probably 100 great GSDs for every great Dobermann. But I think you have to take into account that in Germany, the registration numbers is a correlation to the number of good working dogs. The number of Dobermanns registered is no where near those of the GSD. Those that have maintained the working abilities of the Dobermann, have damn good dogs period. Dogs of which have received praise and cheers in all breed events in Europe. A good dog is just that, a good dog.
Any breed can be destructive in the house, so can a mutt! I own an extremely high drive, hardnose Dobermann that dominates in bitework but is as calm as can be in the house. Are you looking at anything in particular? I knew my Dobermann comment would get a rise out of people, they are just so touchy.
And besides, what did you expect me to say, I am a Dobermann person! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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