Wanting info on APBTs.
#45707 - 05/17/2003 09:49 PM |
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Hello everyone, I am looking for info on the APBT. So far I have heard from people that they are playful, eager to please, high energy, friendly, and dog-aggressive. I want as much info as I can get on the breed. At the time I have 6 Akitas so I don't plan on added a APBT in the mix at the time because they are (or at least I was told) they are very dog aggressive. I just want to learn about them in advance. Thanks for any info, bye everyone.
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APBT == American Pit Bull Terrier They have a talent for creating the lead story on the evening news.
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#45710 - 05/18/2003 12:11 AM |
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My APBT is rather dog aggressive. I have three other dogs but they always let her run things.But she always remembers the humans are the real pack leaders.Had a female airedale here for a few days.Had to keep the APBT and the airedale apart because the APBT tried to bite the airedale on the other side of the patio door.The rest of my dogs are males.She is great with people and most other dogs.
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#45711 - 05/18/2003 12:53 AM |
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My brothers Red nose bitch had been fought once before we "rescued" her. She will totally ignore another dog until it is in her face. My daughters rescue Pit was raised with lots of socialization, and is fine with other dogs in the family. She goes off with ANY sign of aggression from a strange dog. I've seen Pits that are total non dog agressive, but,in my expierience, that isn't the norm. The Pits my family have, and have had in the past, have been easier to live with than most of the other terriers I have had. Kerries, Norwich, White Bull. My Border Terriers are real softies around other dogs. My JRT is a hard keep compaired to ANY dog I've ever had.
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#45712 - 05/18/2003 09:35 AM |
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try this site http://www.workingpitbull.com
It seems to be a great source and with the exception of a few things ie no crates, no corrections.....
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#45713 - 05/19/2003 10:55 AM |
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I own a 14 month old intact male APBT who gets along great with my 14 month old neutered male American Bulldog, but for safety's sake, and because I haven't been able to break him of his seperation anxiety, my American Bulldog stays in a crate when I'm not around.
One big factor though is that my American Bulldog doesn't show aggression, ever.
The APBT will even put up with my Am-Bull grabbing him by the scruff of the neck and pulling 4 inches off his neck when they are playing, but I still don't like the looks of it.
BUT!, he has gotten into 2 fights already in the two months I have had him with other dogs in my family. I thought I would be able to step in at the first sign of posturing, but at the first sign of aggression of another dog he explodes, goes right at them on his back legs with claws thrashing at their faces and trying to bite their neck. It's not pretty and it's hard to get to his back legs. Although neither fight lasted for more than 5 seconds, both of the other dogs came away with torn eyelids, (easily taken care of and healed over night, thank God).
I have heard rumors that the guy who I agreed to take him from fought him 4 or 5 times, but the dog doesn't even have a scar on him, so I don't know.
In his defense, he is one of the most loving, loyal dogs, I have ever had the pleasure of owning. I go hiking atleast once every weekend, and he loves it, and never runs out of steam, but because of his dog aggression I am limited to remote secluded areas.
On another note, I bet if you introduced an APBT to your other dogs as a puppy, it probalby wouldn't be a problem, but I definately wouldn't it with an adult.
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#45714 - 05/19/2003 12:59 PM |
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I know I'm going to pull the rath of Pit Bull worshipers, but I just visited the pit bull site supplied. I enjoyed reading the information there but I will say that its wild and different.
Controlling a pit bull 50 or 110lbs is not that easy obviously with most owners. It seems nobody even thought of training to shut the dog down with a verbal command. I'm sure there are some that perform good Ob. But as I read a APBT onwers say, they have to pick the dog up to make it stop and it's was about to knock them over because of its thrashing while in hand due to its sure power.
And wouldn't try to pick up a over 100lb PPT, there is a fear of being outpowered or getting hurt.
They talk about the APBT being the most "Versitle dog in the World"!!! Give me a break.
What happen to shut the dog down with a verbal command? Obviously its versitle at doing what it wants to do and good at everything but Obedenice or listening. Just what I've been saying.
This was a 5 page post and nobody mentioned OB training. Just alot of my dog tougher/bigger then yours because, I can't control him really and which size could is best for catching wild boars. That's going to really come in handy in the city.
Everythings being relative, maybe I'm am being too hard on or expecting too much from these so call Super Dogs.
I do agree that the APBT is probably pound for pound one of, if note the strongest dogs in the world. Damn some these dogs pulled 7000lbs plus, whew.
But you would get a debate from me if you tried to convince me its the smartest and easiest dog to work in the world, I'm not about talking the 1 in a 100K, that have a SchH/Ring title. :rolleyes:
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#45715 - 05/19/2003 02:14 PM |
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I have to say this is one of the breeds that I do feel sorry for. I have been around some really sweet APBT, and also some very aggressive APBT-both unfortunately I didn't trust either one of them because of the breeds reputation, and the Dr. J/Mr. Heyde personality I have seen in some of them. They are however in my opinion a headstrong dog, harder to train dog, but I personally feel the Chow Chow is worse when it comes to the strongheadedness. I would definately get a puppy from and EXCELLENT BREEDER and socialise him non-stop. People should start talking more about their pulling ability v.s. their fighting ability. Here where I live they are like an accessory for the guys who want to look all tough and manly, which is very sad. Most have their ears cut off and a lot of them are scared from fighting. I think their is hope for them years in the future, if we can weed out bad owners and breeders, look at the bulldog, during the Roman erra they weren't even allowed down town because of their viciousness. Hopefully we can get their with the APBT.
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#45716 - 05/19/2003 03:00 PM |
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I dont consider pitts a "harder than other dog to train" and pitts in my opinion cant be compared to chows in training at all. Most pitts have nice drive and train pretty good, better than the watered down Am Staff. IMO pitts may have a higher chance of dog aggression if not kept in check at a young age but I dont consider that to have anythign to do with anykind of natural tendencies to be people aggressive.Pitts are people aggressive for the same reasons other dogs are people aggressive.
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