Even though you will not shoot out one of these dogs without the genetic history, if one came across one that was superior in regards to working what should be done?
Is it wrong to breed a Long Haired GSD because of the breed standard even if it's working ability is incredible?
Do people on the board feel that at this point people shouldn't be picky with GSD prospects as long as their health and performance is solid?
I myself feel as long as the dog has the right structure then working ability is the most important. But is this the wrong attitude?
They look much better than Belgians I think. I could live with long hairs.
I have a working line bitch puppy with a plush coat. Only one in a litter of -7- Not what I really like in looks but she did the best in our puppy elvaluation. She's doing great in training.
WORKIBILITY IS MY ONLY CONCERN!!
Will bred her, only if she proves herself as a working line bitch. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
She also looks good if I can believe those that have seen her. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
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The standard of the GSD doesn't allow to breed those dogs. It says that the GSD has to have with it's working ability also a 'working coat'.
It's mentioned that the long hair is not tough enough. I personally think it wouldn't be that big disasvantage for the dog but I heard about some ear problems with this fluffy coat. If I think about the Austr. Shepherd or Irish Setter, they do great work with long hair and it seems not to bother them.
Brad, My pup doesn't have long hair, on the top of back it's longer then most GSD's. My male GSD was similar when a pup. He doesn't show it now. However the hair down his back is a lot thicker and rougher then on rest of back and sides.
Still can someone explain the differance so that I can understand??? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
It sure hasn't caused a problem so far in regards to her training. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
A true long hair will be most obvious around the ears, elbows, and sometimes toes, where there will be long, very soft hair that sticks out in tufts (unless the owner has neatly trimmed it, which happens a lot). It will usually stick out quite noticeably in these areas, especially the ears. The coat overall does not lie close and flat to the body.
The plush coat does not have the silky soft hairs of the long coat nor does it have the extra long tufts at ears, elbows or backside of the legs. The plush coat is simply longer overall than a tight, dense coat. Ever seen a picture of a GSD show dog that looked like a teddy bear, looked all puffed up like he'd just been blow-dried? That's plush. There's a normal undercoat, which sometimes is not true with the long hair.
David, Having ear problems in long coated GSDs is a new one to me. I have had 3 coated GSDs in the past and none of them had a days worth of ear trouble. The longer hair isn't on the insides of the ears, it is on the outside.
Brad,
Seems to me that a lot of the folks that have coated puppies actually sell them pretty fast. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Thanks Lee, I read the article by ED, and your answer helped alot.
Darn, still don't know what type coat my pup has, I do know she a TRACKING NOSE and MIND!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
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