What are the good and bad of linebreeding on Troll vd Bosennachbarschaft?

Brad

Willingness/love of work, natural agression

I don't like linebreeding to Fero.

Wow... that was deep Vancamp...

My bad.


I don't like linebreeding to a lot of dogs, Fero is one of them. The drive seems to be more than the dog's nerves and brains can handle in many Fero progeny.

I also think that Fero is overbred. I don't think it is such a good thing for one dog to be the backbone of an entire bloodline, i.e. the West German one. So linebreeding to his best son isn't at the top of my to-do list.


JMOs here.



I HAVE seen a Troll son that I would have loved to own, Doc was a cool dog. Who knows, if the parents are good then who the dog is linebred on 4 generations back might not mean squat.

Well, using Troll will help out with masculine qualities, BUT can lead to smaller dogs, especially if linebred upon.

And I'm with VC, I don't care to linebreed on Fero. The only way I MIGHT consider a linebreeding on Troll is if it also was a linebreeding on Mink and/or Arthus Lunsholz.

I'll let you guys know how my pups turn out, 3-4 on Troll, 5-5 on Xento born Monday. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> Troll and Fero are dogs you either love or hate.

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Originally posted by Angela Washburn:
Troll and Fero are dogs you either love or hate.

Or love to hate? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

Actually, I don't love or hate either. I would like to use Troll, but will only do it through specific dogs. Hell, I've even considered Yoschy Döllenweise (through certain avenues) even though he's somewhat "controversial." <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
But either way (bring in those lines or not), it's not going to "make or break" things, just a cog in the wheel of working towards an end goal.

OK, I'll post my opinions again. In regards to Troll, he has produced some really nice stuff, so has Yoschy. But, fero, who has been bred surprisingly numerous times tends to produce a larger than normal amount of environmental problems and sound sensativity. He throws thin nerves when linebred a good portion of the time. I am especially careful when I buy service dogs that are Fero grandsons and especially those linebred on Fero that the nerves and environmental issues aren't serious. I assume they will be there but they need to be low enough that they do not represent a problem. My biggest problem dogs in the GSD's have been products of Fero (father, grandfather or linebred on him)over the last few years. It always comes back to the environmental issues. Yes, they have genetic good grips, their obedience can be flashy (especially since they have a little thin nerves the obedience is flashy and even with the thin nerves their grip tends to hold up on equipment). Fero is SOOOOOO common in working pedigrees that you can hardly get away from him (though I stay away the best I can for my own dogs) so if you have him it is best through Troll (where I have seen and worked some outstanding dogs). Go beyond the sport field and look into the environmental problems and nerves before breeding on these lines. If you think this is only for police service dogs you are wrong, as these character traits when built upon will produce problems on the sport field. This nerved dogs are also much harder to live with than nice steady dogs.

Kevin wrote:"Go beyond the sport field and look into the environmental problems and nerves before breeding on these lines."


Good advice for anyone breeding any dog.