I wonder if the use of frozen semen will be come more wide spred in the US. Here is Australia there are a couple of guys who have frozen semen from Gento vh Larwin. One of these guys also owns semen from Ed's old stud dog Natan v Busecker schloss. Natan is a Sargus son. In ten years time he can put a litter of Sargus grand children on the ground. The benefits of this on the Gene pool is priceless. In Australia we have been at the fore front of frozen semen importing due to the cost of buying and importing the best dogs. There does not seem to be a big culture of this in the states with breeders. For instance both Mink and Lord spent time in the US. If people had frozen semen from either one of these dogs, well just imagine.
Do people think this will change in time?

I will create a thread on this board about frozen and chilled semen. I believe that it will be an important part of dog breeding in the future.

Kris in Australia that has frozen semen from my old dog only gets one more liutter from the semen that is there. He bought forzen semen for two litters - he has had one. Whats left comes back to me when he has his second litter. I also have my own semen stored on Nickie. I wish there were more and when I do use it I will not be selling the female puppies. I have no idea when this will be used.

Forgive me if I sound ignorant on this but how does this work? I mean- can a pup produced from fozen semen of a dog that has died be registered with any registry? If not- does that make a difference when choosing whether or not to use the semen? I have heard of semen being shipped for use but the dog was alive- Thanks alot-

I have seen dogs that were AKC'd and were from dead stud sperm. lol

They were West Highland White Terriers. I don't know how it worked, but it did.

I don´t know if frozen semen is such good idea, I think this could lead to more inbreeding in the breedingstock. The genepool of strong working GSDs(and other breeds) are not so great, if we use semen from dogs already dead over and over again this are going to narrow the gentic variation in the breed. A popular studdog could then easily have offspring all over the world, because it´s much easier and not so expensive to buy semen from other countries than import a living dog. But if it used carefully it may be a good idea.

There are a lot of dogs out there. I think, for myself, that using frozen semen will give me MORE variety in my breeding program. I will be able to have access to many more studs that would otherwise be out of reach.

This is an important advancement in breeding working dogs.

Did someone say Frozen Sperm. Check this site out.

http://www.caninebiotech.com/ie4up.htm

Stig:

Most top quality working dogs are inbreed. Of Ed's dogs are linebreed.

Robert

I don´t know if it´s a lot of great dogs out there, if we look at the westgerman working lines, you see mink,ingo,greif,ferro,troll,sagus busecker schloss and a few others in nearly all pedigrees. I guess the situation is similar in the DDR and checz GSDs to. Frozen semen could give a single breeder more variety in the breeding programm, but I think it could lead to a smaller genetic variation in the working GSD breed as a whole, if breeders all around the world could easily use the same studdogs. In former times when breeders in a country needed fresh blood in their breedingprogramms, they imported dogs from another country which had different bloodlines. Nowadays with our advanced communications systems, the same dogs are used in all countries, with frozen semen this are even more easy. As a result more and more dogs becomes related with eachother, all around the world.
I´m not a fan of line/inbreeding, sure you could get some good puppies in a specific breedingcombination, but it´s not something that improve the breed as a whole, many breeders tend to linebreed on a few studs way to much, which have caused the healthproblems we see in many westgermans GSDs today.

Stig - your opinions on breeding are narrow and don't reflect a lot of experieince. Everyone is entitled to their opinions on this business, but line breeding is the best and quickest way to improve the breed.

As a breeder I don't look at improving the breed around the world when I produce litters - I approach the task with the goal of trying to produce my next litter to be as good or a little better than my last litter.

Its the respsonsibility of the breeder to watch what he breeds and if he sees medical problems in his pups he should mkae changes. This has nothing to do with line breeding.

To give you food for thought - Troll is from Fero - Mink goes to Grief