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#49984 - 05/29/2004 01:19 PM |
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I have downloaded from the DVG site the Complete 2004 VDH TRIAL RULEBOOK (Official LV/DVG Translation to English)
...way cool!...in an effort to find if there is an "official" and/or "required" size field for Sch competitions.
Unfortunately the tranlated version does not have the diagram attached as per the instructions in the rulebook: "see attached diagram".
I believe the size is 100m by 80m, but was told by a local club member that it's not a requirment and a club can use whatever field size works (?...which would mean blinds don't have to be a certain length apart?)
Could someone enlighten me? I would think for National trials there would be a regulation field size requirement. But what about club trials, or doesn't it matter?...because as one club member told me, "club trials are just practice for the Nat'ls" anyway!
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#49985 - 06/10/2004 07:32 PM |
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Well, I guess no one knew the answer... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Anyway, I got one from the USA Director of Judges, though it wasn't very satisfactory.
Essentially, only the Nat'l trials require a regulation field (min 100m x 80m ) but since there are many club fields across the country that are not as large as the rules call for, and many clubs are limited to the amount of land they have available, I was told to merely make an effort to have the field, especially for Protection, as large as possible within the parameters of the land we have access to.
Not very definitive...
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#49986 - 06/10/2004 11:23 PM |
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Ann, you're right about the recommended size of the field, but you're *really* right about clubs across the country fitting fields into whatever space they have.
I've trial'd on fields that were at best 2/3's of the recommended size ( GSDCA events ) and I was surprised that the judge didn't say anything. I've also trial'd on a field that was literally bisected by a hill - you couldn't see blind six if you were standing at blind one.
Nice, flat fields with no holes in them to fall into.......you'd think that wasn't asking too much! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
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#49987 - 06/20/2004 04:52 PM |
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100 m x 80 m is the outside borders of the field, with the blinds well inside the borders. This is based on soccer fields, American Football fields are not that wide. However they are close enough.
At our club field the blinds are set at 60 meters, and I can tell you that most dogs are gassed after running 6.
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#49988 - 06/20/2004 07:22 PM |
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We set up the actual borders and blind postions on our SchH field today. We ended up shooting compass azimuths to keep everything exactly straight.
Man, unless you're at the Regionals & Nationals every year, 100 meters by 80 meters strikes you as a big field ( about 4.5 acres out of a ten acre piece of property )
Our club will mention that we have a regulation size field when we list our trial dates. I'll let ya'll know if the competitors consider that good or bad. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
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#49989 - 06/20/2004 09:58 PM |
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The reason I sent an inquiry to Mark Przybylski is because our practice field doesn't even come close to the recommended size! It measures only 50m x 30m (150ft x 100ft) vs the recommended 100m X 80m (328ft x 262ft)
At best we can set the blinds in one side 15m (50ft) apart vs the recommended 30m (90ft). Makes for an interesting run. The dog's well into a B&H at #6 while I'm still fast-walking to pass #4... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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#49990 - 06/20/2004 11:59 PM |
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It was about the same for me in the past, Ann -50 meters by 30 meters was about the length of the club field at NorthEast Georgia SchH club in Athens, Georgia.
We held several trials there, and as far as I know, no judge ever complained.
Of course, the club president was also a judge, so maybe that had some bearing on the situation.... :rolleyes:
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#49991 - 06/21/2004 12:10 AM |
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Orv Story:
"100 m x 80 m is the outside borders of the field, with the blinds well inside the borders"
I don't see that the 80 meters is the outside boundry. The rules state that " -2 blinds ( About 40 paces' distance from the imaginary midline and set staggered)"
That's the exact quote from the USA Offical Rule Book for all Working Dogs Evaluations
I'm reading that as the blinds are basically 80 meters/paces apart.
We used yards, as that's what our engineering tape measure was marked in. I don't think any judge will complain, as our field is closer to regulation size than most that I've trialed on.
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#49992 - 06/21/2004 11:37 PM |
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Unless saying " 4 1/2 acres out of a 10 acre piece of property" is an old saying like"gotta go see a man about a dog",, then thats way off.A sch. field is a little less than 2 acres.
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#49993 - 06/22/2004 01:22 AM |
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Yep, Dave's right by the math - 100 meters by 80 meters equals 8000 square meters, converted to acres comes out to 1.98 acres.
Funny, it sure looked bigger....
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