Ok, Ed suggested someone make this a topic and since we know AKC's view on the Prong collar, I'd be interested in hearing how the UK and Australia came about outright banning them? What was the reasoning behind it?

There was no resoning behind it. The various australian state governments are advised the their respective RSPCA branches. These branches are full of old biddies, bleeding hearts and do gooders with too much free time and not enough sex in their lives. Theyd look at a prong collar and say oooh that would hurt little my little fanny licker poodle fi fi, it should be banned. They have no experience with bitting working dogs and cant concieve of a situation where these collars could be a asset. So they say to the gov ban em and thats what the gov does.

It all a matter of social conditioning, a month or so ago the army got proffessional kangaroo shooters in and they shot 20,000 (twenty thousand) kangaroos on one of their bases just outside melbourne as they were running amok. It legal here to run deer with hounds and quite legal and socially acceptable to spotlight animals at night like kanagroos and womabts, wallabies etc.Ditto to run down wild horses on horse back and sell them for dog food. Parrots are posioned and shot in govrnment sanctiond programs. In a lot of the world that sort of thing would be seen as very cruel and probabaly illegal. Yet most austrlians would say thats all ok but think prong collards are horribly cruel.

come on Brendan, don't hold back. tell us what you really think. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Brendan has started a thread with a nice opening post on this subject. I am going to close this one so we don't have two going on the same exact subject. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />