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#51815 - 10/20/2003 09:46 PM |
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Hi, I am new to the forum. I have two house dog/ companions. A male rottie mix who is 14 months old and a 4 month old female GSD. I've recently started with the basic training video.
Bamboo, the rottie mix is very stubborn. I had a very difficult time with him until I got him in a prong collar. It works like magic, I just need to be more consistant it, he is worse than horrible with distractions. I'll post more about him later, we need lots of help.
I would like to get Gyspy, my GSD into a prong asap. Is 4 months to young? She is not a hard dog to train, she is sweet tempered and responds favorably to our training sessions. I started walking them together and it's like a circus with Bamboo in his prong and Gypsy leashed to her plain old collar. She is so excited to be out walking with Bamboo that she's all over the place. I need more control.
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#51816 - 10/23/2003 06:22 AM |
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One of my old trainers had a rottie pup that she had to get a mini-prong for at...8 or 12 weeks maybe? she'd previously only had golden retrievers and jetta (the rottie) was a challenge, a very hard puppy. she didn't abuse the prong and the pup responded fine to it...i would try it on your pup and see how she responds, if she's okay with it then that's your answer!
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#51817 - 10/23/2003 04:03 PM |
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4 months old is too young to put a prong collar on a puppy. She is just being a normal excited baby. If this is the only problem when you walk her, I would try to walk them seperately or if possible have another family member take Bamboo. She has to learn how to walk the right way before she can be expected to do so on a continual basis and she needs to learn this without other distractions.
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#51818 - 10/23/2003 10:17 PM |
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You need to train your GSD by herself. I wouldn't use a prong until at least 8 months old.
To much OB at a young age will harm this pup. Have fun, us motivation and food to train your pup. When you can walk her with out any problems then introduce her to walking with your other dog, until then keep their walks seperate.
Time enough later on to use a prong if necessary.
Enjoy the puppy you have for it will age before you realize it.
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#51819 - 10/24/2003 10:06 AM |
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Thanks so much for the responses. I will wait on on the prong collar and take the advice to and walk them separately. I think I was being lazy and just trying to skip a step.
Are rotties notoriously hard dogs with hysterical antics? I have never in my life seen such a stubborn mule <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> .
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#51820 - 10/24/2003 03:32 PM |
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Hi,
I'm new to this post to. To anserw your question about Rotties, them being hard dogs I would say NO. In my experiance in decoy work I have only worked one out of many dogs that did not come off the bite when pressured. They may seem hard on the outside, but if you pressure them too much they'll always break down. I also have a GSD pup, 5 months, he's a very hard dog for his age, but I won't put him on a prong until he knows what I want.
Good Luck in your training
Angela
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#51821 - 10/25/2003 12:01 PM |
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Rotties being soft? Need more infor on those dogs and it sounds like a generalization has been formed on some crappy pruduct. I have worked Rottiess from England, Italy, Germany, Austrian and the true German line dogs here in the US....not a whimp in the bunch,however, the American (see the parallel) Rottweilers I have been asked to evaluate have been nothing but crap.
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#51822 - 10/25/2003 03:21 PM |
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Hello,
I'm not necessarily saying that all Rotties are soft, I personally love the breed, but most of the American breed Rotties, if not all of them, will back down to a fight if pressured enough. Why don't you see a large number of Rotties in any sport, of protection, it's because it's hard to find one with the nerves that they had in the past. BUT I'm not saying that ALL of them are soft, I've seen some as hard as Dutch Shepherds. All that I'm saying is that in the past you could find any Rottie with the strongest never ever, but now, especially in American breed Rotties, it is extremly hard to find one.
I hope that we can come to an understanding
Angela
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#51823 - 10/25/2003 05:08 PM |
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Well my guy is a pound puppy and only half rottie but he is the hardest dog that I have ever seen. I took him to basic obedience when he was 7 months old and it was nothing short of disasterous. I can see where that training could work for darling little dogs, not big bad boys....no way.
Thankfully, I found this board and in reading here and watching the video, have been able to get some control, though we have a long way to go. On the up side he is very funny and devoted and that make him easy to love. To me, he is worth the aggrevation and extra work. He is slowly turning into a good boy.
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#51824 - 10/25/2003 06:12 PM |
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Hi,
Enjoy the cutie pie puppy days while they last <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> Good lucky to you and your darling little Rottie baby. And I agree, this web site and the videos help alot <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
Well again best of luck to you and your pups
Angela
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