Maybe I missed the last thread on this kennel, but I would like to hear opinions on their studs. All I have heard so far, on this board, is negative opinions on this kennel and mixed feelings on their studs. I really like their bloodlines and they seem to have a clear vision of what the GSD should be. Can anybody give me individual insight on their studs Xero, Faro, Dargo, and Congo. What kinds of temperments have they produced? What kinds of dogs are they? I have heard great things about Xero, but I would like to hear people's opinions on these dogs. I have thought about paying a visit to the kennel to watch their dogs work because I was interested in using one of their studs.

Anybody??

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Originally posted by Howie:
I have thought about paying a visit to the kennel to watch their dogs work because I was interested in using one of their studs.
Anybody??

think about using one of their studs all you want, it won't do you any good. The have a closed "program", meaning no outside bitches. If you want a pup from one of their studs, you have to buy one of THEIRS.

There is no Dargo on their page, and make sure you notice, Balli Panta Rei & Norbo Ben-Ju are NOT their stud dogs!!! The fine prints says they can import a pup from them for you. If you're really interesting in "using" a stud like Balli, Norbo, or Dargo Ha-Ja-Da (sp?), I know someone that does frozen semen from them.

a very close friend of mine contacted them recently (like within the last week) inquiring about stud service. They told her they don't accept outside bitches. So I would double check.

As far as Balli & Norbo, I don't have much info on them. Others here might know a lot more (and might have first hand knowledge). Ones I'd like to hear about is Gero z Blatenskeho zamku, who I've heard good things about, as well as Dargo Ha-Ja-Da. Anybody got some info??? (TODD?)

I purchased my dog from VDH K9 2-years ago. He is from Congo Vikar and Gita Ste-Kot.

I can tell you this. Dari James is very strict with her breeding program. I interviewed with her one afternoon to define my needs and expectations as well as hers.

It was amazing to me that she could understand the future temperment and charachteristics of a dog when it was so young, but I can state that everything she told me about my dog at 7-weeks of age has come to pass. He is a fine male who looks much like his father Congo Vikar. He turns heads and instigates conversation wherever we go.

As far as her rules for outside breeding, that's her perogative I guess...as in any other business, one decides what one choses...I cannot comment further in that regard other than to say, in my humble opinion, she does a fine job and her dogs are fantasic examples of the CzechGSD.

My observations on some dogs mentioned above:

Congo: A monster example, stunning, extremely well trained...one person dog...he loves Dari.

Faro: Well balanced, beautiful, extremely well trained and friendly to outsiders.

Xero: I love Xero, the first time I met him I had the opportunity to handle him on lead and he worked like a champ. Excellent working dog, friendly...he's a house dog most of the time.

These are observations from a guy who's not into heavy competition. I wanted the finest example of a GSD I could find (and afford), a dog that would train well, protect and live in our home...a dog that I and my family could trust. I found that in the dog that I purchased from Dari James & Van Den Huevel K9.

And yes, Czech dogs can be taught to play well with others...Here is my 100lb dog Ren with his 3lb baby cousin Lewis the Dachshund.

http://home1.gte.net/res0vzcg/forum/ren&lewis.jpg

Dargo is not in this country.

You can get frozen semen from some of those studs mentined at Canine Biotech. http://www.caninebiotech.com

As far as Congo and Faro, the dogs they actually own, I have to say that I have honestly not seen progeny from either of them that I would want to own. I also question breeders that are not involved in training, but breed "working dogs".

Gero and Dargo are dogs that I would breed to, judging by progeny I have seen in the flesh and Jiri's own comments made to me in conversation about what dogs of his produce what. You can see video of some stud dogs at http://www.jinopo.cz

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Originally posted by VanCamp, Robert:
...I also question breeders that are not involved in training, but breed "working dogs".

Very Good point, I agree. It would be nice to have the opportunity to purchase from a breeder who also offers training. Such is not really available here in Oregon. Those that do offer training, require the dog to be purchased from their kennel...others need not apply, "BUT if you'd like to sell that there dog before you leave our fine establishment...we have cash".

I sense much competition amongst the ranks here...life is too short to play that game...for me at least.

BTW, Xero is not owned by VDHK9, but by good friends living a few miles from the kennels.

Anybody have any good Congo or Faro progeny?

I have seen some of both, and I didn't like them, but one Faro son out of a bitch that had Art z Lipin in the pedigree could work.

Mike
They told me last week they would use Congo or there other studs on my bitch just last week. Bt I went with Rex Dean Colderons dog instead.
Ron

Ron posted: Mike
They told me last week they would use Congo or there other studs on my bitch just last week. Bt I went with Rex Dean Colderons dog instead.

Ron, I'm glad you found the Stud you wanted.
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