I'M A POLICE/K9 HANDLER AND HAVE HAD A CZECH IMPORT FOR ABOUT 2WKS NOW. THIS IS MY 2ND DOG. I HAD MY 1ST FOR SIX YEARS (UNKNOWN LINEAGE GSD). WE ALSO HAVE 3 OTHER NEW CZECH GSD'S. ALL ARE VERY DIFFERANT THAN OUR OTHER 15 CANINES.I WILL RETURN TO THE SWAT TEAM EVENTUALLY IF THIS NEW DOG HAS WHAT IT TAKES. GENERALLY WHAT ARE THESE DOGS LIKE IN THE AREAS OF FIGHT , DEFENCE, PREY AND PLAY DRIVES . ARE THEY KNOWN TO BE HARD DOGS? HOW DO THEY USUALLY DO IN CIVIL AND APPREHENSION WORK? MINE DOES OK IN CIVIL WORK BUT NOT REAL IMPRESSIVE. MY DOG ISN'T HARD AND DOESN'T NEED MUCH FOR A CORRECTION. HIS APPREHENSION WORK IS GOOD BUT DOESN'T SEEM THAT SERIOUS. HE IS VERY DIFFERENT THEN MY 1ST WHICH WAS A VERY HARD , CONFIDENT AND SERIOUS DOG.
I've had pretty much the opposite experience. My dog has mainly Border Patrol lines, but he needs a very hard correction to get his attention. He has never backed down from any decoy, regardless of stress put on him. His prey drive and defense drives are very high. He is a little sharp. He was hard to teach the "out" command, very stubborn dog. Once he focuses on something you need a 2x4 to get his attention off of it. (not literally) He is a very hyper dog, but a great worker. Just my experiences, for what it's worth.
Jim, we've had a few Czech dogs over the years. I retired our first one about six months ago. He was one of our the first imports that we purchased. It would be wrong for me to generalize about Czech shepherds but w/o a doubt he was one of if not the hardest dog we've ever had. Great prey,hunt, and defense drives. Impeccable nerves. Rarely got rattled by anything. He confronted bad guys w/ confidence. He was a medium sized dog. He did however have one screwed up looking coat. He also moved a little like a hyena. With that messed up coat we used to refer to him as the himalayan hyena.
The dog had four handlers in his career. Bit everyone of them. After the first handler I told all the others that it's not a matter of if he is going to bite you its when. Sure enough they would eventually step on his foot and bam he'd light into them. The wounds healed and he turned out to be a great dog for everyone of them.
Speaking of Czech dogs - which you were - can someone give me their views of "Sharpness" Don't yell at me too much as I'm only an ignorant Brit - but sharpness seems to have an element of nerves in it. When does sharpness become nerves and how much is desirable..
In my opinion sharpness can come from different sources. If the sharpness comes because of fear then you have a problem. Sharpness can also come from dominance-competitive drives which can be molded into fight drive, this is what most of us want in our PSD or PPD's.
Not sure if I can ask this without writing a novel but here goes - after many years with my own bloodlines -very bombproof temperaments - too much so in my young dogs case - strong prey drive -but loves everyone, never guards at all - I now have the opposite in my first working bred pup - I'm told his suspicion is a desirable trait-he's only a baby but I wondered if I was making too much of it as I'm not used to his lines.
Originally posted by VanCamp, Robert: I like to use this definition of sharpness.
A quickness to react to stimuli with an aggressive response. Perfect definition I think.
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Well then we would be making it a lot more complicated. I personally don't use sharpness as a term to talk about a dogs confidence. (not really) To get any more in depth you would have to start looking at individual dogs and their temperaments and traits in my opinion. But. . .
I guess the stimulus could be anything, that would depend on your dogs nerve. The thinner the nerve the more things are going to set him/her off. A dog that is still sharp with better nerve is going to be reacting to more legitimate threats/stimuli.
Whatever the stimulus the dog still lights up very fast, or even better, engages the threat very fast. . .like at the drop of a hat.
Other aspects of the dogs overall temperament will determine what sets each dog off and what he does when that happens. Confidence, training, social aggression/dominance, nerve. . .whatever.
Thats how I understand it and the way it was explained to me.
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