I have two German Shepherds and a Pomeranian. My Shepherds actually keep an eye on my Pom. when outside, they make sure he does not leave the yard, they herd him. What is funny about this is they were never trained to herd, they are both still very young.
My Shepherds:
My female (Madchen) is our American breed and the oldest, going on 7 month, I purchased her at 5 1/2 months, she has show style and everyone see's it in her. She runs with grace, learns practically at the drop of a dime, has high drive, very alert and is at the top of her Obedience class. She is very intelligient and I plan on her earning the same title as her parents and grandparents--SchH3, CD, IP2 and I am not sure if she can earn the KKL1, due to plush hair. Her Grandsire is Jello vom Michelstadter Rathaus. Her grandparents and parents are both show lines, but not champions in conformation. She has the SchH bite which is funny, because when I purchased her, she did not know her name, the word "no," had never been in the house, or slept in a dog bed. So her first week with me was a learning experience for both of us. It was like a child just learning to walk. Now she is a shadow wherever I go, even if I walk to the other side of the bed.
My male (Sarpedon), he comes from a long line of SchH3, his parents and grandparents are a working line of Federal and State police dogs. He is from a pure DDR line from East Germany. He is a beautiful shepherd, but by his looks you can tell he is a working line. He is 3 months, but is very intelligient. He cannot yet enter obedience, but when he can he will be starting in off leash. He just about knows all the basic's but is being slow on the stay command. When I recieved a copy of his parents pedigree, it was all in German. He is a bit more aggressive than Madchen and very dominate, which being a male I feel he should be. To see them together, except for looks, you would never be able to tell the difference in blood-lines. He bites just as she does, has the same intelligience, learns just as quick, runs like a champ, but puppy style and fetches the ball. For 3 months that is smart. He will sit, come, down, heel and stay for a minute. He also crates and does not whine all night--never did.
With thier tempermants and intelligience and after they advance in all they can, I was planning on breeding them. I wanted to allow Madchen one litter, I heard it is good for a female. But I have people telling me, that mixing DDR and American would not be good. It would bring about puppies that have no place in society. What they meant by that I do not know. So if anyone can help me out and knows what was meant by that I would truly like to hear from you.

Traci, what they ment was that people like either the American lines or the European working lines. Mixing the two is like taking a bottle of beer and pouring it in a bottle of great scotch. No matter how much you like beer or scotch, it's no longer usefull for anything.

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<< people like either the American lines or the European working lines. Mixing the two is like taking a bottle of beer and pouring it in a bottle of great scotch. No matter how much you like beer or scotch, it's no longer usefull for anything. >>

AWESOME - LOVE that, thanks for a great post.

molly

Yeah, a 25 year old scotch boilermaker. . .that sounds pretty good.





I have this little rule I learned in college. Don't mix beer and hard. . .unless you want to end up in the yard.

Isn't it true that the founder of the German Shepherd dog, Von Stephanitz was the originator of the breed. So wouldn't that mean that all German Shepherds have some DDR in thier bloodlines. If you think about it, their bloodlines are not much different than humans. American bloodlines are what originally caused impurities in the Shepherd genes, due to breeding for looks and show. So if you take a german shepherd and make a family tree, somewhere along the lines you will find DDR bloodlines.
I guess in 1 1/2 to 2 years I will find out. I believe that two dogs with excellent temperments, high drive, intelligience and great companionship will make great pups with the same. Both parents will hold titles and excell to the fullest extent and the puppies will have the drive to do the same.
Thanks for your input, but it really did not sound very truthful or real.

How do you figure that all GSDs would have DDR influence because von Stephanitz was the founder of the breed?

WTF?


The DDR was East Germany, due to the isolation from West Germany (cold war and all that?) and certain selective processes the dogs in the DDR formed their own type that was a little different than other GSDs in the free world.

Those bloodlines were used to some extent when the wall came down, but not every GSD has DDR blood in them.


The DDR dogs all come from the same foundations as other GSDs, but their little branch split off after WW2. So NO not all GSDs have DDR blood.

the dogs in the DDR formed their own type that was a little different than other GSDs in the free world.
Can anyone explain the type that DDR dogs are know for? I'm still trying to learn the difference between DDR and West German and
Czech dogs and how they differ.
So far i learned i defintely dont want an
American bred one or German show line.

Thanks in advance.

There is nothing wrong with American bred or show line. My female is American and an excellent dog. She is beautiful, very intelligient, has high drive and a wonderful companion. Her grandfather is Jello vom Michelstadter Rathaus. I believe that it is not so much the type of Shepherd, it is the breeding temperment that counts.
My American bred and my DDR bred both have excellent bloodlines, temperments and drive and both are very inteeligient. The only difference is one is workinglines and the other is showlines. Also I believe it is the owner that makes the dog. If you are willing to work with your dog and let him/her excell in as much as possible he/she will turn out to be a wonderful dog and you will have just as much fun teaching as he/she will have learning.

tracy....u are barking up the wrong tree in this site...almost all people here have strong feelings on what is a good GSD and that is only working lines...with having no showlines or american lines or being oversized or undersized or wrong coat or color...as u will find by reading other posts...but then like your opinion that is their also..Breeding them is your call if that is what u want to do but beware u will become one of many in american as a backyard breeder which also is a no no in alot of eyes. But this is still American and you have the freedom to do as you like as long as you like.
Just one suggestion and that would be make sure that they have a great home to live in...nothing worse to me as to see a dog living in a bad home.
Good Luck