I have heard several breeder's state that they did not want any lines that had either Fero or Lord in their pedigree. What problems have ocurred that warrants this action. thanks

Breeding is a tricky thing. As far as Fero with Lord, two of the best dogs that I have seen are from this cross. Never would have I thought this until I seen it. What I am also seeing is dogs that are Fero in the 3th generation or further, and with no line breeding on Fero are very nice dogs with a lot of balanced drive in most cases. The nerve issues are not really there either. It also depends on where Fero is coming from. I did manage to see a few Lord Sons and daughters, and what I seen in his offspring is they are putting better dogs off for the most part then he did. A lot of the Lord kids were a bit handler soft; a little too much for my liking. Lee makes some good points on why there was so much of a Fero craze when he was alive. I did not ever get to see many Fero Sons and daughters, but have worked a number of grandchildren and in just about most of them there is that hecticness that Fero is noted for. I think Mink was overall a better producer then Fero, but I have seen a few with bad nerve issues, tending to be afraid of new surroundings.

I will be breeding a Troll granddaughter to a lord line male next christmans if everything goes well. they are both well balenced in drives and the trainablity it very high. This will be my first litter and I am not sure what will happen but if anyone would like to know how it works out i will keep you updated and give you a honest answer. If it dosent work i will try breeding the troll line to a mink line male and see what we get. If anyone has an idea as to what would be a good line to mix with. Im always looking to improve.

Tom
My opinion is that when a dog becomes SOO popular and produces as many high level dogs as Fero did, there are always those NEY sayers out there that don't want what everyone else has. I liken it to the way people these days name their kids. Everyone wants to be original. Sure Fero produced his share of bad everything, just like any other dog out there. His sons Troll and Timmy, Gotthilf, Okar etc etc etc,,produced even better than him. That makes the Fero argument even more ridiculous. I've owned a Fero daughter, several Fero grandsons and daughters and have always had good luck breeding that way. As for Lord, I don't know what people's gripe is there. I like good dogs that produce.

and again.......the female contributes a great deal to the genetics and temperament of the offspring. it would be easy to blame the sire needlessly because they, for some reason, seem to get more notoriety than the dam. the wise breeders are honest with themselves about strengths and weaknesses and plan breedings accordingly. what a pity that some fine dogs don't seem to be able to reproduce the same qualities. some of it might be attributed to poor choice of breeding partners.