Hey Guys,
Here's an interesting topic that I argued with a somewhat interesting character this weekend.
This individual who's an advid hunter it's big game opening weekend, stated that he could avoid a police K9 or any other K9 tracking him with scent away which is used to hide human scent from the deer, he stated that it could also be used to hide from K9's. I argued the point vigiourously (Being everyone had hunting rifles LOL I used tact) that this product would not discourage a well trained K9 from finding him. I have done alot of tracking and SAR etc. But wouldn't this scent away have it's own scent and the dog key on this and track this oder? A scent is a scent like gas, motor oil, purfume any oder on the persons body?
Anyone have a thought on this so I can explain it to him the next time I see him in the hunter land. Very curious to know!
Thanks all and be safe all!

Lewis/Argo and Riley

Scent Away is an antibacterial. The theory is that if you kill the bacteria that create the gas that makes an individual's body odor, then you eliminate the odor. Not only is it impossible to eliminate body odor, but tracking dogs are also keyed in to the scent of the bacterial action of the disturbed soil, and the crushed vegetation where the subject has walked. The Scent Away may reduce body odor for a short period of time, but I highly doubt that one could elude a well trained tracking/trailing dog, or even an airscent dog, just by using Scent Away.

Scent away is a marketing ploy. It does not eliminate scent, it masks it with an odor neutralizer like in Frabreez. There is still human scent present, just not as much.

If dogs can follow 3 hour old tracks then they can follow your Scent Boy.

There is also the issue of the added odor of the scent blocker crap. Dog may very well trail that along with the human scent.

If you were wearing the boots, the socks, the undergarments, the outerwear, the coats, the gloves, the head gear, and sprayed your entire body, you will still smell.

Deer don't try to track trace amounts of scent to find the hunter, they catch scent on the wind and detect you in the distance and run away. Dogs will follow even a small amount of scent and trail it like a hunter. Two different things.

It says right on most of the products that they CUT DOWN on the amount of scent you give off. If you are in a blind all day with a breeze blowing across a few deer trails, the scent gear might help because it will lessen the amount of scent carried out there. You will still get tracked by a K9 though.

Why are so many redneck hunters so dumb? Sometimes I think wild game destroys brain cells.

Even though I like to hunt. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

Swanston, some of the scent away crap claims to mask human pheremones (spelling?) as well as kill bacterial odor.

The whole thing is a load of crap, for the most part.

VanCamp, How many brain cells left??? Are there any rednecks in the north west?? In Louisiana we have Cajun's, they know how to hunt. Put anything out of season and they hunt it. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

Just kidding bro, <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> yep like you posted, it's all a bunch of crap. The dead skin cells that were not covered by the masking scent will still fall off the body leaving a scent.

Not only will the dog follow trace amounts of scent but will also pick up on the distrubed ground scent.

Robert, Good post!!! I don't like REDNECKS either.

Originally posted by VanCamp:


Why are so many redneck hunters so dumb? Sometimes I think wild game destroys brain cells.
VanCamp, I think it has something to do with the amount of Busch beer they consume at hunting camp...

Hey Guys,
Thanks now I can shove it down his redneck throat I told him it wouldn't work, Thanks for the imput.
I know my tracking and the theroy just needed the backup brigade, always nice to have reenforcements on the front.
Be Safe all,

Lewis/Argo and Riley

First off, I'd like to point out, the term "Redneck" came from honest hardworking dirtfarmers, that spent the day plowing by mule, working the fields etc, and thier neck became very red from the sun. Being a former southern farm boy, I can only assume the term redneck became a derogatory term by some yan uhhh northern folk.

Having been part of an extraordinary research effort, conducted during the Viet Nam War, I can say with some certainty, that cover odors are not all that effective in throwing off good track dogs. The research effort was designed to help downed pilots escape track dogs. The effort was successful, and good track dogs, with proven records, in double blind studies were NOT able to find the subjects, however it was not cover odors that worked. I"m not at liberty to say what was used, as it was a classified project. The dogs worked through cover odors though over 90% of the time. I'm sure every dog handler has heard all the stories, and have met the one person that defeat any working dogs. I guess it's like all the drug traffickers that say they can beat the dogs too.

DFrost

Does anyone have experience with dogs coming in contact with noxious chemicals during a tract and how long it would take their scenting ability to return? I was wondering what effect having a track run through an enclosed area where there are solvents stored would have.

Dfrost,
Thanks for the information very informative!
I will to some more research, Nothing against Rednecks being a country boy myself these boys put a whole new meaning to back woods hillbillies.
I wasn't trying to be deragatory towards anyone if I was I apologize!
I will talk to my buddies at Lackland AFB, I was a K9 trainer and handeler for 7 years there are still alot of people there from the old school meaning Vietnam NCO's and such.
Be Safe!

Lewis/Argo and Riley