I was given a 4 month old puppy who was living with his parents and brothers and had no contact with people. I have 3 other female dogs of 8, 7 and 1,5 years old. They got on very well together but soon after he arrived he was bitten around the neck (as he run towards them when they were furiously running up and down the fence after the garbage collector's car) and had to go several times to the vet for treatment(I had to forced myself on to him to get him into the car and at the vet three persons were needed to hold him and a muzzle). I am unable to put a collar to him as he will not let me touch him around his neck or his body for more than a few seconds. He has accepted me, he eats from my hand, he has learned to sit and walk by me.
I spent a lot of time every day with him playing with a ball on a string, a long piece of cloth with different strings tied up in several places, with plastic bags filled with water etc. He used to bite a lot but learned very quickly not to bite my legs or hands. He likes to pull and chase. He seemed very interested in all these games. He has learned to sit and wait until I throw a toy or before I open his kennel door in the morning. He has never done any damage to the garden and has immediately learned not to do things that are not allowed.
Now at the age of 7 months he is not very interested in any games, he will go after the toys a couple of times only, he is interested in playing with the other dogs but they are not, only for a short time. I see that he is looking at me in a way asking him to do something. I can not take him out for a walk as he is not wearing a collar and I don't know how to help him.
I have ordered the video on Basic Obedience and would like suggestions on books to buy and ways to spend a more productive time with him as he seems to be very intelligent and a fast learning dog. Thank you.

Didn't we just go through this?

Patrick

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Didn't we just go through this?

The forum may have recently discussed this issue. It seems the originator of the thread was unaware of this prior discussion.

How about when one of the members asks for help, direct them to where the discussion can be found.

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Thats great advice but the originator of this post is the same as the last one on the 24th of November.

Patrick, if you are reffering to my post under "Raising Multiple Dogs" topic: unable to put collar, I would like to clarify that the replies to that topic were very helpful. What I want to know now is how can I spend more productive time with the puppy not wearing a collar, as he is not interested in games anymore, and what books can I read to give me ideas and help me out in making his life more interesting. I am not familiar with dog play as non of my other dogs evere played (they are all rescued dogs and I got them in different ages). I have read books on basic training. I cannot make any corrections with a collar (not that are needed) but not having the collar it is not always possible to make the dog understand what I want from him. I want ideas on how to make the time I spend with him more interesting for him. I read the posts on non affectionate puppies and propably he is like them. I don't mind that he is not keen on petting and not showing affection. I just want to know if there is a way to train (teach) him without the use of a collar. Thank you.

Stick with the advice from earlier. You have alot of time. KEEP him away from the other dogs at all times. Get Bernhard's video and I would recommend reading "Ruff Love".
Pat

Thanks again. I will do as suggested. I have been going through the articles in the site. Excellent work, great help!

First of all exactly what do you want the dog to do? I mean this,you got a pup that during its imprinting period,it ran with its litter mates,then you bring him home and turn him loose with a yard full of dogs where he was immediately put in his place in the pack, and now you are aking why does he acts like a dog with no interest in me. He has been trained by other dogs! Thats why he's not so inerested in you or your games. I dont know exactly what you want from your dog other than to play with you, but as long as he runs with other dogs that is going to be wher his interest is, he doesnt know anything else. As far as training without a collar , I would say "no" you cant ,but then again I dont know what you want from your dog.

David, Sorry for taking so long to reply. I thought the topic was closed as I am planning to study the tapes before coming back again.
All my dogs guard the premises. 2000 sq.m. No person or animal can enter without my permision. If they do, they won't come out, not the same any way! But they never touch any of the other animals or persons (although they keep a close eye on them) that live within the perimeter. At one time they were all out together (with me of course just to make sure): hens with baby chicken, rabbits, cats, ducks and dogs! Unfortunately the leader dog I had at the time,(excellent dog, golden reteiver mix that I had found in the street, a puppy with a bad burn on her back, she tought me all I know about dogs, friendship and dedication) died last year at the age of 14. No other dog can replace her, but they follow her steps as she was the one who trained the older dogs that I have now.

It seems like your dogs are training you...not you training your dogs. I agree with David. You have too much going on at once. You really should concentrate on one thing at a time.