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She Lost an Adult Tooth !
#660 - 03/19/2005 12:59 PM |
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My training friend has a female GSD pup who she is planning on using as a ppd...Until one of her teeth fell out!! She hadn't even begun her bite training when they noticed some blood on one of her toys. She checked her mouth and the 2nd molar to the last on the bottom jaw was hanging loose. It eventually fell out completely and now she had a gaping hole in her gum line.
Could her crate have caused this? She might have been able to twist her mouth through and pull just the right way to pop it loose. It now regularly bleeds when scraped against even her kibble.
What should she do? Find a new home for the dog?
Continue the training without a molar? Save for breeding/OB? Hope this isn't a waste of a good ppd dog!
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#661 - 03/19/2005 01:10 PM |
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Alison,
How old is the pup? They do lose their puppy teeth.
Did the pup lose an adult tooth?
Has your friend taken the pup to the vet for a check?
Just curious.
Mike
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Re: She Lost an Adult Tooth !
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#662 - 03/20/2005 01:54 PM |
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She got the dog around 6mo. so it had already had its adult teeth in. She said she didn't take the dog to the vet because when she found the tooth broken out, it was still attached by the root, but didn't look good-(not able to be saved). I guess she thought the vet couldn't do anything to save the tooth. She did some tug work to see if it affected her or caused pain during the bite and it didn't seem to hurt her when she played with the tug, but she is hesitant to chew her kibble and it leaves some blood on the tug. What kind of future does a working dog without a molar have in bite work?
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Re: She Lost an Adult Tooth !
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#663 - 03/20/2005 08:18 PM |
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If I'm understanding this correctly, the crown of the tooth is gone but the root is still in the jawbone??? If this is correct, she should be taking the dog to the vet to have the root extracted. If the root is not removed, the dog will most likely get an abscess.
My cat had a broken canine. After 8 years of her having a runny nose and my being told that my cat had feline herpes, I discovered that she actually had an abscess and that the infection had errupted through her sinus cavity. When they removed the tooth and were shooting water up the hole, it was coming out her nose!
If the dog is not chewing it's kibble, it is in pain and should be looked after. Just because the tooth can't be saved, that does not mean that treatment is not needed!
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#664 - 03/20/2005 09:20 PM |
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Actually, her whole molar is missing now, but when she first noticed a problem with the tooth it was hanging on by some skin with the root still in the hole. Now she has an empty space in her gumline that has healed over. It looks like there was never a tooth there. She has since changed her diet by wetting the dry dog food with warm water and the dog waits until the food soaks it up before eating it. She still chews her bones and toys though. I think she should take her to the vet just in case there are some fragments left in the gumline or something.
Does anyone know of a dog who has broken thier tooth on a crate?
Can she still bite train her dog?
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#665 - 03/21/2005 12:55 AM |
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One of my bitches broke her tooth on her crate. She had a fit when she was crated for a long time period (due to surgery), and pulled the door in, resulting in a broken front canine. She has had a few other teeth removed (molars and others) as well. I tell her she's going to be my toothless old woman! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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Re: She Lost an Adult Tooth !
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#666 - 03/21/2005 07:06 AM |
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I can't help you with your bitework question as I don't do bitework.
Let me say this again. If the dog is having trouble chewing it's food, it's in pain. The gum may have healed over but it sounds to me like there is an infection in the root that is still in the jawbone. I highly doubt that the root of a molar fell out. One of my dogs broke a molar last year. It was a slab fracture. Everytime I would touch it, a piece would fall off. The tooth was not salvageable and the vet had to break it in 3 pieces to get it out. The roots of the molars are an integral part of the canine jaw bone and they do not come out easily.
Chewing bones, playing with toys and doing tugwork are not an indication that the dog is not in pain as drive takes over and the dog "works" through the pain.
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Can dogs get tooth implants like people? Not for the asthetics really, but for eatng. I would think it would be hard for the dog to get decent nutrition without a molar, well I don't know really...
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#668 - 03/21/2005 06:35 PM |
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my 7 year old male is missing a molar due to an abscess caused by a cracked tooth which necessitated removal of the tooth.
he does not seem to miss it and can stll hang on to a large two handled tug without any issues. I dont know how that would translate to ppd level of bitework but he has a steel grip and does not have to reposition due to the missing molar and can eat just fine.
I know of one patrol dog that had a titanium implant for a broken canine tooth but that was because it was needed for bitework...but i would not think it worth the money elsewise.
i think your friend should definitely have a vet check for root fragments causing the problems.
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Yes dogs can get dental implants. Find a vet who is board cetrified in dentistry. There is a very good one in Tulsa, OK. Dr. Kenneth Capron. But dogs can also do bitework with some missing teeth as long as they have a correct grip and it causes no pain. Check with a vet first!
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