Stella Nikolaoy Webboard User Reg: 02-05-2003
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I have noticed that Orphea, my longcoated gsd looks alot like a shiloh sheperd. How can i figure out if orphea has shiloh bloodlines?? (He doesnt have a pedigree so its not out of the question even though the "breeder" told my sister he was from german lines).
What is your opinion about shiloh sheperds??
I probably would not worry about it. From my understanding the pets are sold being spayed and neutered leaving only show or working lines able to be bred. Since the breed is so few in numbers, I would suspect that it would be unlikely that your dog is mixed with it.
The shiloh shepherd was originally from GSDs, so a GSD can be a "purebred" and have some of the shiloh foundation lines in the pedigree. Shilohs were bred for size and long coats. The females are over 100 lbs or close to it (I can't remember the exact numbers). Unless your GSD comes from an American backyard breeder, it is highly unlikely that the dog has shiloh lines.
The only requirement for a shiloh to be breed worthy is that it is a minimum size. Having "special" shiloh shepherd papers doesn't mean much more than AKC papers, and they mean absolutely nothing to any international registry. I'm with Deanna, the good thing is that they aren't called GSDs and wading in the GSD gene pool anymore.
"Dog breeding must always be done by a dog lover, it can not be a profession." -Max v Stephanitz
I agree that if you want a working dog, you shouldn't get a Shiloh as they seem to have most of that ability bred out of them. However, I went to http://www.shilohshepherd.com , and I do like some of the rules they have for breeding their dogs. There are TONS of requirements (hips, temperment, etc.) and a pretty detailed breeders code of ethics.
hi , stella . what are you planning to do with you r shiloh ? iv'e only had experience with one shiloh and she struck me as a nice affable dog , but a little weak as far as any strong working drives was concerned . this dog was a young male ,, already 32 inches at the shoulder , with a very sparse coat , lots of bald patches on the contact spots ( elbows , knees ) . he did show some willingness to do SAR (ground search ) but didn't really have the piss'n'vinegar that made you sit up and take notice ! i'd never seen or heard of one before but he struck me as sort of a cartoon peter and the wolf caricatures , long loping gait with a friendly disposition , good luck !
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Actually, I just visited their website, and now I think even less about them than I did before.
For crying out loud, they have an entire page just about some lost Shiloh Shepherd that's "shy" and can't be approached.....apparently it's been lost for months, there's tons of sighting on him, but *nobody* can get near him to capture him. Great advertisement for their temperament, for sure. I guess a recall exercise with this breed requires a gun using tranquiler darts....
And the comparison between dogs of the past and classic cars...cute, but an invalid comparison. A better comparison would be that you wanted a classic car, find out they don't make them anymore and you then buy a plastic replica of that type car and place it on a VW frame....sorry, it's not the same thing!
What has been done to the Shiloh Shepherd was also done to the King Shepherd. The King Shep. Gets up to 150lbs. I suppose a lot of the 'working' is lost on that dog as well.
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