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#62300 - 05/16/2003 01:50 PM |
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about a month ago while I was out doing the 2 mi with my 5 yo Rott (not fixed), a dog followed mr home. It was a huge dog, my Rott wanted to attack him but I got him under control and as the other dog got really close realized he was a puppy, but big, verry big.
I would say 11 mo or so, verry large frame thick ancles a whole lot bigger and MAYBE a bit havier than my 5yo Rott. Oh... and fixed.
the thing is I am not really crazy about fixed dogs. I feed him well and he got bigger within the last 3 weeks and has very good responce and seems extrimly inteligent.
My question is can he be traned as guard dog or I should find a different owner for him.
also in general, How do you guys feel about fixed dogs
I appriciate any opinions. thank you
Floyd
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#62301 - 05/16/2003 02:26 PM |
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This is a question that seems to be popping up a lot on the forum lately. Having a dog neutered will NOT alter his temperment or his trainablity. This seems to be a common myth that once the boy gets his goods removed his brain goes with it. That is simply not true. What you tend to get is a dog that is not destracted by other male dogs and will generally be not aggressive toward them either, less marking, sometimes it disappears completely sometimes not, and he will not feel the need to run around and spread his seed to every bitch that he can smell in heat-remind you that they can be a mile away and the male can smell it.
My dog is still intact. He is a year now, he gets along well with all other dogs, male or female, and is VERY smart and VERY trainable-but he may get neutered some day and I don't give a second thought to how this will affect his training or temperment.
If the only reason why you are thinking about getting rid of this pup is because he is fixed, I personally feel that is just foolish. As long as he is trainable (which you said he is extremely smart) has a sound temperment, has not other behavioral issues and your 5 yr old Rottie gets along with him I would definately keep him. Just be careful with the 5 yr old Rottie so he doesn't hurt him and maybe socialize him a little more too ( the 5 yr old that is <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> )
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#62302 - 05/16/2003 04:22 PM |
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thanx Dee,
I also forgot to mention this big puppy (I would guess 115 lb.) is Rott/Mastiff mix to my opinion.
but 80% of dog owners I've met on the street say he is full Rott.
Coat - looks 100% Rott
Head - I see Rott + Mastiff
Body frame - HUGE, looks more like mastiff (not as thick as my 5yo Rott) but his feet and ancles look BIG even for his large frame, I've seen dogs w/ big jaws and teeth but o boy not quite like this at least not in real life I havent seen.
thanx again Dee
However the question still stands
I appriciate more opinions on this
-fixed male dogs and what is their potential-?
Ive had another Rott which I ended up fixing ( my girlfriend who has the extreme oposite of my opinion on this demended that) now ... let me explai what happened... I got Tricky(1yo german Rott, very dark) from the Pound
had to pull some strings to get him out w/ his goods. When taking him out of his kenel he escaped from the hendlers runnin down the hallways in the pownd. It took 4 BIG guys + equipment to catch this dog inside the Pound. These handlers told me they have never experienced anything like it. Trick was not very big but thick and well put together. he looked like a big pit-bull.
two years later when I got together with my current girlfriend I got convinced by her and her girlfriends that it was better for the dog to be fixed
this dog changed comletely he still runs a lot when he is out but the rest of the time he looks depressed or just sleeping
he started gaining weight I resently got him to loose weight but the mussle is gone too everiting changed , including his face.
This is why I would like to hear different opinions on this
thank you
Floyd
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#62303 - 05/16/2003 04:25 PM |
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I neutered one of my GSDs at 3, another at 4 yrs old. Saw absolutely zero change in the first one, and the only difference in the second one was a decreased propensity for sniffing everything over 3" in height and marking it. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Neither gained weight, lost energy, or lost anything in their bitework.
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#62304 - 05/16/2003 05:01 PM |
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I think the key question is what you want to do with the dog? A working dog or sport dog will need to be fully developed before you get him fixed or the dog's drives will suffer. Once the dog is matured you should see no changes. As far as Rottweilers go... they take about three years to reach full maturity so you might want to take that into consideration as well. Studdies have shown that neutering effects the dog's growth plates and will cause dogs to become bigger in size perhaps quicker than their muscular-skelatle systems are ready for. In breeds that are troubled with joint issues a smaller dog is usually a healthier dog.
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#62305 - 05/16/2003 05:35 PM |
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I just never seen jaws and teeth that big from up close, before in my life. I thought my girlfrind's 2yo. wolf hybrid had really white teeth, but not when you see this guy to his side. I dont remember what exactly 1yo Rott's pray drive should be but this guy's seems pretty high
Thanx
Floyd
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#62306 - 05/16/2003 07:00 PM |
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<I dont remember what exactly 1yo Rott's pray drive should be >
Depends, which church does he go to <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
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#62307 - 05/16/2003 09:12 PM |
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Neuter this dog. He will be healthier and live longer. Dogs that are neutered after 2 years of age do not loose working drive. The fact is most police service dogs should be neutered when they get up to 6 or so - they have a longer career and they NEVER have prostrate problems.
Tell your girlfriend to put a bullet in the head og the wof hybrid. Read the article I have written on my web site about these animals.
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#62309 - 05/17/2003 09:30 PM |
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Hey Ed, I will look for the article tonight. I'm interested in your point of view.
If I tell my girlfriend about the bulet, I'll have to start looking for anappartment tha same day :-)
Floyd.
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