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#62640 - 06/07/2003 12:30 AM |
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Our one yr. old lab is out of control. He seems to be pretty smart because he has figured out how to get out of his crate. But when he gets out he tears everything up!!! He has done it today 3TIMES!!! The last time my wife locked it as usual, sliding the latch closed on top and bottom of the door and she also put a chair in front in case he would get out. WELL, he DID get out!!! And ohhhhhhhhhhh my what a mess!! He flipped his cage over and actually did not even open the door to the cage but he preyed open the top of his cage. He tore open the garbage all over, ripped apart alot of my wife's crafts (wooden and plastic) ate a watch (torn to shreds) tore a hair brush up, sand paper was shredded and many more things. What the heck would provoke a dog to do such a thing??? He has never done soooo much damage in the past. He is a very nice and loving dog that I thought was pretty well behaved and trained. PLEASE HELP!! What can I do?????? Why has he done this??
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#62641 - 06/07/2003 11:43 AM |
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Contact a reputable retriever breed trainer in your area. Sounds like you didn't have him from a pup, and sounds like you now have someone elses problem.
Many people wind up with hunting dog lines, not knowing they do not make good house pets for the inexperienced. They tend to be hard headed, with high pain tolerance... and need to be corrected accordingly, to be effective. They also need alot (alot!!) of outlets for the energy and drive they have. If he wasn't crate trained from day one, he was allowed to be lovingly clingy to his owners. I imagine he flips out in the crate, even if you are present in the home? (they call it seperation anxiety)
If you go to any lab forum... your problem will probablly be the main topic. I really wish you the best, as you have a long road ahead of you.
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#62642 - 06/07/2003 01:42 PM |
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Thanks for your reply but, we got him when he was a puppy (8wks. old)and we crate trained him from day one. All I have to say to him is cage and he goes in and is very relaxed. That's what is driving me crazy, I have no idea of why he acted or is acting the way he is. I understand Labs need alot of attention and when they are not getting enough attention they have a tendency to "destroy" things. If we can not be with him, watching him (like a baby) we put him in his cage. However, if he is able to figure out how to get out of his cage by sliding both locks open and now by not even opening the locks but busting through the top of the cage I don't know what to do. Again, why would he do such a thing?? I am going to buy a chain and lock for his cage so that there is no way that he is going to be able to get out and destroy our house and belongings again. I love this dog, he is usually so good and obedient.
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#62643 - 06/07/2003 04:55 PM |
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Its hard to correct a problem unless yo know whats causing it.
I have two labs I have no problems like this at all. I would first find out if the parants were hiper like this.
But not knowing a thing about your dog I would try putting the crate in a quiet part of the house were the dog can not here you when your there. Put him in the crate and leave the room. One or at the most two minutes, return and play with lots of praise. no mater what he is doing. Evan some treats. Put him back in the crate and do it again. and again and again each time adding some more time that your gone. Four or five times per session. The dog needs to know that you will be back and all will be well when you do get back.
Second Idea: same placement with a E-collar on. Watch thru the window. When he starts trying to get out "zap", not hard or he will hate the crate, just enough to get his attention.
Id also crate him beside me when I was there every so often. and feed him in the crate.
Good luck
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#62644 - 06/07/2003 05:19 PM |
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Sorry for the assumption... as that is usually the case. I personally never worked on dogs like this... but have heard the horror stories time and time again. (Mostly labs too)
Way back I talked to a trainer about seperation anxiety.. his opinion was most cases the dog was neglected from attention/outlets or the dog was at home with some one for a period of time, where the owners didn't feel the need to crate the dog, then when a call came for him to go back to crate, because owners where gone for lengths of time, the dog develops these anxieties. It makes some sense to me.
Again a trainer who is willing to help you through this is your best bet. Whatever the cause of the dog flipping out when left alone, and becomes destructive... I imagine someone who is experienced in it is the best bet.
These crates are similar to the ones I was trying to find for you, and may be a simple fix... kinda high priced it may seem, but will save ya alot in the long run!
http://www.pet-expo.com/cratebox.htm
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#62645 - 06/07/2003 06:18 PM |
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I do not like the crates that Michelle pointed you to here. Dogs like this lab are going to get their toe nails ripped off and feet tore up trying to get through this wire mess.
The crates with bars that we sell are a better solution. There are aso side vents with bars - no dog is ever going to get out of these crates.
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#62646 - 06/07/2003 07:58 PM |
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Put him in the crate and leave the room. One or at the most two minutes, return and play with lots of praise. no mater what he is doing. I have to disagree with this. If you come back and the dog is flipping out and you praise him, he will think he is being rewarded for his insane behavior. I like the general idea, but only reward the dog for being quiet in the crate or you could very quickly make your problem much worse. Give him something new and exciting to chew on to keep him busy and not thinking about being confined while you are away for those few minutes... and try Ed's crates!
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#62647 - 06/08/2003 01:26 AM |
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Then in your openion you should either never let it out of the crate or beat the hell out of it?
Every time you return and let it out your giving it its greatest reward. Letting it out! So how would you stop the reward unless its good?
Ive probably corrected this behavior,with the reward/time or the e-collar ten or twelve times in the last five years. Some take longer than others but it has always worked.
And Ed is right on the crates. Ive seen two differant dogs that start in the corner of the plastic crates were the two halves join, and they shew there way out.
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#62648 - 06/08/2003 02:09 AM |
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Ok, what I think you all might be misunderstanding is that he is totally trained to his crate. Right now he is laying in his crate on his own (went in there by himself). It is not a matter of having to train him in the crate. When we tell him to go into his cage he goes and he is not hyper or freaking out because he is in there. Our dog is a pretty laid back dog, not hyper at all, he's a great dog. He usually just sits down or lays down when he gets into his cage. That's the reason I was so shocked that he has gotten out these few times and destroyed things. But anyways, thank you all for responding. Thanks Ed, I will look into your crates.
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#62649 - 06/08/2003 10:02 AM |
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Ron...The dog will eventaully settle down, then he gets out.
Frank...Good luck with your dog I hope you get the problem solved quickly and with no more terrible messes.
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