Poisoning dogs is real extreme, isn't?
#63091 - 07/19/2003 11:10 PM |
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#63092 - 07/20/2003 04:33 AM |
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I can certainly see how someone would get pissed off about all the damn off leash dogs in the parks around Portland. I live around here and you can't go to a park without some jackass and his loose dog bugging the crap out of you, or running up and getting in a fight with your dog, or running up and barking at you and your kids, or running up and jumping on you with their wet muddy paws.
All dispite the clearly posted leash law signs. It is pathetic what some a$$holes will do just because they think they are entitled to letting their dog run around and do whatever it wants in a public park.
I hate these people.
But it isn't the dog's fault. . .killing the dogs isn't NICE. . .maybe the perp could just find a way to poison the people and leave the dogs alone.
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#63093 - 07/20/2003 10:21 AM |
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Under NO circumstances do I condone what was done to these dogs. The owners who refuses responsability for their dogs should be fined for their contempt for the POSTED laws. Aside from the loss of an undeserving animal, my thoughts about these owners are "TS"! We have a number of nice parks within a very short drive of my house. I haven't been to them in years because of these owners. Even many of the ones who have their dogs on leashes don't have a clue.
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#63094 - 07/20/2003 07:47 PM |
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OMG... it's bad enough that some idiots did this... planning to kill dogs. But did they ever think that someones small child might have eaten it as well? Or any other wildlife critters?
Although if they half a brain to begin with... they would have been able to deal with the law breaking owners through the courts. I hope, he/she/they, get felony charges for being so stupid when caught.
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#63095 - 07/20/2003 08:21 PM |
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Although if they half a brain to begin with... they would have been able to deal with the law breaking owners through the courts.
How praytell does one do this, BTW? I like to think I've half a brain. . .and I have yet to figure it out.
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#63096 - 07/22/2003 03:51 PM |
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Sometimes the law is not the answer either, unfortunately. I live in Alaska and we have 2 animal control officer serving a borough that is massive. I have called 5 times because of my neighbors dogs who corner me and my son on the road all the time. Sure they come out, so what? Nothing happens. Owner gets told to not leave his dogs loose and they leave. Woopee.....so now what? I guess we are supposed to wait til one of them bites us and then maybe something will happen.
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#63097 - 07/22/2003 08:40 PM |
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I must be lucky... dog at large in my area is 150 bucks... and gets bigger the next offense. I call police dept., they dispatch the animal control... fill out report... and next week I am reading about em in fines section of the paper. Took my neighbor 3x to keep his pit and rott in his yard and not terrorizing the area.
I can understand the frustrations I would have if they didnt respond... but I woulda damn well made a pest of myself til they did. I just meant there are much better ways to handle things, and was in the anger mode of reading had been done.
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#63098 - 07/22/2003 09:19 PM |
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It is very bad here .... our animal control cannot "go on private property" to apprehend a dog without the property owners consent. In other words, the dog has to be out in the street but they will take the dog if you catch it for them. I am not kidding -- this is the first place I have ever lived with this stupid rule.
That said we have had a small pack of large dogs from adjoining redneck property who are loosed at night and harrass property owners, kill cats and small dogs, etc. (I live in a 350 home subdivision) The neighborhood association has banded together and requested help from the authorities to no real avail and I doubt anything will happen until they attack a child. BTW, they are in town limits and there is a leash law. LOL.
As is, no one walks dogs here after dusk. I wont leave mine out unsupervised even though our yard is fenced. We are held hostage. And the dogs are too smart for the "traps" animal control has set out.
I agree that poisoning is not the answer but can see how people are pushed to these extremes.
In my perfect dog world you would:
1 Need a license to own a dog (like a drivers license)
2 Pay additional taxes if not spayed or neutered (unless dog is legitimate working dog)
3 Pay huge fines for uncontrolled dogs, escalating based on number of offenses
4 Tie outs would be against the law.
5 The penalty for unprovoked dog attacks against humans would be HUGE
So don't flame me -- I know it ain't a gonna happen. Just fuming based on the sad reality of the idiocy of the term animal control.
BTW -- when a GSD was hit and in the street in front of our house, AND alive, Animal control would not get him because he was not dead yet --- a passerby and myself had to load him in my SUV (I had muzzle material on hand <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> ) and I had to personally take the dog to the vet and agree that I would pay the nominal bill if the owner could not be found...... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />
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#63099 - 07/22/2003 10:18 PM |
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In my perfect dog world you would:
1 Need a license to own a dog (like a drivers license)
2 Pay additional taxes if not spayed or neutered (unless dog is legitimate working dog)
3 Pay huge fines for uncontrolled dogs, escalating based on number of offenses
4 Tie outs would be against the law.
5 The penalty for unprovoked dog attacks against humans would be HUGE
So don't flame me -- I know it ain't a gonna happen. Just fuming based on the sad reality of the idiocy of the term animal control.
BTW -- when a GSD was hit and in the street in front of our house, AND alive, Animal control would not get him because he was not dead yet --- a passerby and myself had to load him in my SUV (I had muzzle material on hand <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> ) and I had to personally take the dog to the vet and agree that I would pay the nominal bill if the owner could not be found...... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> Sad to say it but the animal control officer is often not to blame. The follow the rules they are given by the towns they service. My housemate is the ACO here and do you want to know what they pay her?
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$300 a MONTH. Yes, that is no typo. Three hundred dollars a month to have a pager on you 24/seven and chase around the worlds sweetest critters (who usually are owned by the worlds nicest people too)... :rolleyes: Now, since this is considered 'part-time' job and it pays so well, she covers several towns... And it helps that she has an animal shelter as well...
Oh, and lets not forget the paperwork!! I have never seen so much paper in my life!
She has been told by the selectmen (when they refused to pay vet bills) that if it wasn't going to die in 24hrs she was not to take it. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> It all comes back to the bean counters.
Don't blame the person in front of you unless you know the whole story. If you feel you are hitting a dead end, get your group to go to town meetings. Be pests to the people who control the beans!
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