Would any of you working breeders breed a coated female that has an outstanding pedigree and temperment/workability? I know it is a breed fault, but if you are breeding strickly for working qualities would you do it? Also, would you purchase a coated pup with the same attributes?

Personally, I love the coated GSD's, I have one, she's great. Will I breed her? No...why? well, in her case, partly because she's showlines (West German) and it's silly to breed coated showline dogs because they cannot show and SchH USA will not register her pups.

Beyond that...if she were working lines and were the best bitch in my kennel, her long coat was her only fault would I breed her? Tough one. Probably not though. Would I use her for a training program? Why not? If she had the drives (she does), the nerves (she does not), and the sound conformation (she does not) there would be no reason she could not be an excellent working dog. But there are a enough "normal" coated GSD's out there with excellent qualities that I would not feel quite right breeding a dog that is not "acceptable" according the the breed standard. While I don't breed for the show ring, I do still think that the standard has a purpose.

And no, I am not a showline dog breeder, I just happen to have a showline pet <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> . My breeding dogs are all of strong working lines...and none are coated.

No. No. And no.

Why? The long coat does not truly protect the dog in harsh/unfavorable climates/conditions. They're supposed to be double coated (guard hairs over a wooly undercoat) for a reason. The only way I'd do it would be if I was a Malinois breeder, cause they don't care. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

I wouldn't mind training a coated GSD, but *after* I spayed or neutered it.

Mike.
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Ron

Whatsamatta Ron? Don't like pokes in good fun at Mali people? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

. . . and can I offer another NO.


The dog would have to be the last animal on the planet with good working ability before I'd even consider breeding it.


Coats suck. I don't like them, no. . .not one bit.


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Don't like Malinois people either, no. . .not one bit.


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Not really! I would not own one myself. But I know people that not only like them, They beat out our shepherds at trials--Some times!
I just dont believe in saying they dont care. Some yess. A lot maybe. But not all.

I would also advise to definatly not breed a long coat. And if I had the best there is for working lines I still wouldnt. A reputation means more to you than that in the dog business.
Ron

V.C.
Ive never met you. Hope to some day! But I hear you dont like any one on two legs! Unless maybe they have a good bounty on them.
Ron

You could shave the pups, then move to another city before the coats grew out.
Somebody (besides irate husbands) actually WANTS to meet VC ?! "HOLY S#!+" ! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />