Hi this is my first post so be nice please <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> . I have 2- 9 week old pups half collie half lab, both males. The get along great but do bite on each other which I think is normal? The only time they get really serious is when one is playing with a stick and the other trys to take it- what should I do? As for training they already know what come means and obey it, what should I work on next - sit? Also the are kept together in a 10'x10' pen till they are old enough to train for their petsafe underground fence. Also should lab collie mix make good temperd family pets?
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I'd start crate training immediatly and read Mr Frawley's article on ground work http://www.leerburg.com/groundwork.htm.
I personaly did not have any luck with the underground fence. It does not keep the nieghbors' dogs out. My one dog learned to grunt thru the pain to get out. To take the dog for a walk I had to remove the zap collar, put her in the car and drive to the other side of the wire and let her out. I sucked it up and fenced my yard. If you take the time for training, they'll make great pets. again, read the training articles and start the obed training.
Thanks, as for crates no these are outside pets. No housedogs I have a 2 year old. Also any ideas on how big these guys will get? As for other dogs close there not, Also the fence I got has run tru protection which means it will continue to shock for 20 - 30 sec. Also my dogs will be trained on how to use the fence at least a month. Also guys I have been reading most of the topics on these forums and you guys really know your stuff, and have put alot of great information here for newbies like me read and learn.
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hey, Ima newbie myself, but you really ought to consider the crate as a training device and not a containment system. My bro in law has two male Malnois littermates. they were constantly scrapping. they got in a fight that required a trip to the vet. He finaly had to build them proper kennels.
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I for got I have a 3 year old boy 6 yr old and 10 yr old. and 2 gsd's that come inside. Its a matter of teaching manners, to the dogs AND the kids. if I had to guess on size. I would say more than 65 lbs. collies and Labs arnt little dogs. and there is a phenomenon called "Hybrid Vigor" that I read about where the crosses grow larger than the parents. good luck!
Hi Mike,
Congratulations on your two new pups, one has always been enough of a challenge for me. Have you considered neutering? Having the male pups together now unneutered is ok but, as soon as they begin to mature fights are not only possible they are probable. And considering they will be outdoor dogs, you may not be in a position to see or hear the fight that will eventually occur.Might get some posts that disclaim this but it is just something to consider.
Jerry
Mike,
I had my rottie neutered at 10 months, in retrospect I would have had it done earlier. I have found that waiting serves no purpose other than giving the dog more time to get the desires that you want to eliminate by neutering. You will get some very good info about neutering age on this board. I have seen "pet" dogs do very well when neutered at very early ages. Does your 2 yr old have any interaction with the dogs?
Jerry <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Before 'fixing' your dogs - you should really look into it a bit deeper - dogs testicles are there for a reason and are used through out the whole growth period of the dog to provide important hormones ect and through out the dogs entire life. Fix you dogs if you must but becareful not to have it done to early.
Read back on previous posts regarding this issue - there have been some very good indepth discussions on the pros and cons of fixing. Also look at your reasons for fixing dogs - if it is reagrding the fighting aspect - if i understand it correctly - there is no real evidence to support the fact that fixing, fixes agression in dogs.
As far as when can neutering be done we have nuetered 10 week old rescue puppies. I wouldn't trust the containment deal you have if you don't nueter them. Batteries on those collars die out and it only takes one time for them to figure it out, not to mention they might chew them off. just something to think about.
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