ok just wanted you guys opinions on the diet i am using on my dogs.

ok for breakfast they get their meaty bones. at the moment its chicken thighs but i do like to rotate in turkey necks chicken backs etc.

for dinner they get hamburger, chicken gizzords. ground turkey, fish etc
vegie pulp and V e and omega 3 (omega 3 take eds advise one pill for every 10 lbs of body weight) calcium and glucocimine


any thought or suggestions on what to add change.


ok this is for my 2 shepherds. the puppy( 11 months old) had a boute of dandruff and some strange itching for the first week and then it disappeared. since then no signsof problems and they are healthier than i could have thought.

the pup has put on a lot muscle since starting this and i like the results.

Looks good to me. I tend to mix it up and have a chicken day, a beef day, and a fish day and I just keep it as random as I can only feeding the fish once a week.

as soon as i get more used to this raw thing i plan on mixing it up

but chicken is cheap and so am i

I`m thinking about switching my GSD to an all natural diet. My question is this..i know that you have to give supplements with any diet and i have found a product that is called vetbalance. It is supposed to cover everything there is, so in other words if you use this supplement you will never have to use another supplement in your dogs life. I really would like an opinion on that. My dog has been on it since december 2004 and i have to admit..his coat is shinier, there is less shedding, his energy level has gone up and so on. But i would really like the opinion of one of the experts on this board. Here is the website if you want to check it out
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Why do they tap dance around the ingredients? They don't straight forward tell you what is in it. they tell you what this stuff does. Not what is in it. Seems strange to me. Get the book give you dog a bone, by billinghurst. Leerburg sells it. If you read it you can do it all yourself and not have to buy expensive supplements.

David-if you feed chicken or turkey or any fowel products make sure they are 100% free of bones. Bird bones unlike beef or other bones splinter badly and can actually kill your dog...very very dangerous. 1 thing more people may want to try is deciding what you want to feed and then going to a commerical butcher and having them grind up a mix for you of whatever you want. you can add whatever you want including whole chickens or turkeys including bones and then have them ground up double fine..the bones have good value they just have to be ground into tiny pieces. Example you can take 50 lbs of beef, 3 whole chickens with skin, 8 pounds of beef liver and a dozen eggs with the shell and either veggies or a commerical vitamin powder-I use Missing Link versus veggies...I buy the one for horses because its almost identical to the dog version but you get 5 times the amount for the same price. Have it ground up and wrapped into whatever sizes you need for dogs and keep some fresh, some refrigerated and some in the freezer. YOu can make 100% your own recipe and in any volume from 50lbs on up. My mix changes somewhat seasonally as I harvest a couple deer per year and they make it into the mix also. I've never had even a sneeze in 5 years since I've been doing this(dogs not me-I've been sick)and I get alot of compliments on coat condition and overall physical shape of my dogs and the dogs love the food. They get bones and chews to keep their teeth clean. Derek

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David-if you feed chicken or turkey or any fowel products make sure they are 100% free of bones. Bird bones unlike beef or other bones splinter badly and can actually kill your dog...very very dangerous.

Where did you hear this? Cooked bones are dangerous. I've been feeding raw for years as well as ALOT of other people and have never had any problems with poultry. I feed either chicken necks, chicken wings, leg quarters, turkey necks, turkey wings and have NEVER had problems. I think alot of people who feed raw will disagree with you. Cooked bones are the risk. Heck Ed even has it listed as feeding it, and as long as he's been in the business........

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if you feed chicken or turkey or any fowel products make sure they are 100% free of bones. Bird bones unlike beef or other bones splinter badly and can actually kill your dog...very very dangerous.

You might get some disagreements on that. I agree with your statement if the bones are cooked but raw that are actually quite rubbery. Of course, I wouldn't feed my dogs raw without supervision but I know alot of people who do raw chicken with no problems, without grinding. I worry more about raw beef bones than I do chicken.
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if you feed chicken or turkey or any fowel products make sure they are 100% free of bones. Bird bones unlike beef or other bones splinter badly and can actually kill your dog...very very dangerous.

i would have to disagree with that.

i know several breeders and handlers that feed raw and include chicken bones in their diet no problems.

my dogs love there bones and as long as they are raw and not cooked it has not been an issue.

also i wish i had before pics of my rescues teeth. they are almost perfectly white now.

My two little terriers have been on raw, large, whole leg quarters for a couple of years now. NEVER had a problem, don't anticipate any.