david perlich wrote 04/16/2005 10:03 PM show mals #72686 - 04/16/2005 10:03 PM
david perlich Webboard User Reg: 02-03-2005 Posts: 171 Loc: dfw tx Offline	is there a differance between showline and working line mals like there are for the gsd
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Corey Beale wrote 04/16/2005 10:25 PM Re: show mals [Re: david perlich ] #72687 - 04/16/2005 10:25 PM
Corey Beale Webboard User Reg: 09-24-2004 Posts: 209 Loc: beeYOOtiful British Columbia Offline	Short answer? Yes. Long answer? Yes with a 'but.' There are some lines out there that are not bred for work- not as many as working lines, but some. If I was looking for a dog for sport I certainly wouldn't start my search with these. However (and someone with more knowledge on this please correct me if I'm wrong <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> the differences between 'show' and 'work' Mals is not as extreme as in the GSD. A Malinois that comes from a non-working pedigree may still be a decent working dog but I would not be surprised if it doesn't end up being your picture perfect Ring III/SchH III powerhouse. Like border collies in the States (forgive me for going with the other breed I know!) The AKC registered "barbie" collie may still be able to herd sheep but I'd put a whole lot more money on the farm-bred ABCA/ISDS dog with the pedigree back to Scotland to win the stockdog trial. Hope that helps you. Vincere vel mori!
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Brigita Brinac wrote 04/16/2005 11:47 PM Re: show mals [Re: Corey Beale ] #72688 - 04/16/2005 11:47 PM
Brigita Brinac Webboard User Reg: 12-28-2001 Posts: 183 Loc: Offline	Hi Corey... >>However (and someone with more knowledge on this please correct me if I'm wrong ) the differences between 'show' and 'work' Mals is not as extreme as in the GSD.<< I have found this to be the same as in the GSD's. There are MANYYYYYYYY Mals that just don't work period...absolutely no drive...not to play, hunt/retrieve, bite whatever...And it's not only the lack of drive but also not possessing the correct temperament or character for work... If one wants a Mal for WORK...Then my advice is stay with 100% working lines...even then it's NOT a GUARANTEE but the probability of success is much greater. Anyways, JMO. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> http://www.fd-malinois.com
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Corey Beale wrote 04/17/2005 12:40 AM Re: show mals [Re: Brigita Brinac ] #72689 - 04/17/2005 12:40 AM
Corey Beale Webboard User Reg: 09-24-2004 Posts: 209 Loc: beeYOOtiful British Columbia Offline	Makes sense, Brigita. Your opinion is going to be a wee bit more educated than mine- I've only been around this breed for a short time! Re: my response- I was trying to be diplomatic (ha ha.) I've known a couple of showline Mals who could not work to save their lives, but boy, were they pretty <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" /> Not something I'm going to have to worry about- I get to bring my working boy home next month. ...oops. That didn't come out quite right, did it? Nero's certainly not an ugly guy, but there you have it- I'd rather have an unpretty dog that I can work with over a gorgeous moron any day. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Vincere vel mori!
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Kay Solano wrote 04/17/2005 12:54 AM Re: show mals [Re: Corey Beale ] #72690 - 04/17/2005 12:54 AM
Kay Solano Webboard User Reg: 02-16-2005 Posts: 120 Loc: Offline	Corey, you find show Mals attractive? I literally laughed my butt off when I first saw one--which is also a reason why I never considered a Malinois before, while trying to choose my breed. All my books were AKC-type so the Mals featured were show Mals. Then I saw my first working Mal on the net and my jaw literally dropped. It's the dark colour, the 'regular wild dog' look that I like so much. Show mals just look like they have manes and walk on stilts and have their coats painted on...
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Corey Beale wrote 04/17/2005 02:43 PM Re: show mals [Re: Kay Solano ] #72691 - 04/17/2005 02:43 PM
Corey Beale Webboard User Reg: 09-24-2004 Posts: 209 Loc: beeYOOtiful British Columbia Offline	Quote: Corey, you find show Mals attractive? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> umm....how can I answer that and not get crucified? In my defense, the first Malinois I ever knew was (is) a very pretty, comparatively delicate (showy) girl with long legs, short coat, and tons of pigment. So I went for a while thinking that that was what a "good" Malinois was supposed to look like. (Same as someone saying that all border collies should be black and white, fluffy, and 19-22" tall!) Imagine my surprise after I started training. There were no two Mals that looked alike. It was difficult to believe (for a newbie) that they were all purebred- and all the same breed to boot! There are some beautiful Mals out there, I have to admit, but after a few years of Ring and hours of Selectifs and French Cup videos I gotta say my concept of "beauty" is changing <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />. Vincere vel mori!
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jeff oehlsen wrote 04/17/2005 06:15 PM Re: show mals [Re: Corey Beale ] #72692 - 04/17/2005 06:15 PM
jeff oehlsen Webboard User Reg: 11-20-2002 Posts: 1303 Loc: Colorado Offline	I would say that a dog that bites well no matter what it looks like is a beautiful dog. But thats just me! I am smarter than my dog, your just not.
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Matthew Grubb wrote 04/17/2005 06:24 PM Re: show mals [Re: jeff oehlsen ] #72693 - 04/17/2005 06:24 PM
Matthew Grubb Webboard User Reg: 09-27-2002 Posts: 637 Loc: Pittsburgh, Pa. Offline	As time goes by and Mal's become more popular to John Q. Public you will see more and more polarization between working and show line Mal's. I do my part to prevent this rise in popularity.... every time someone asks me if my work dog is a dingo I say "Why yes, yes he is." http://www.NAPWDA.com
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Corey Beale wrote 04/17/2005 07:03 PM Re: show mals [Re: jeff oehlsen ] #72694 - 04/17/2005 07:03 PM
Corey Beale Webboard User Reg: 09-24-2004 Posts: 209 Loc: beeYOOtiful British Columbia Offline	Quote: I would say that a dog that bites well no matter what it looks like is a beautiful dog. But thats just me! Exactly. Life before bitework was pretty dull, I must say! Vincere vel mori!
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Chris Duhon wrote 04/17/2005 07:42 PM Re: show mals [Re: Matthew Grubb ] #72695 - 04/17/2005 07:42 PM
Chris Duhon Webboard User Reg: 08-14-2004 Posts: 702 Loc: Southern Louisiana Offline	Matthew, That is exactly what I do, people ask, all the time, looking confused, "IS THAT A German Shepard?", I smile and say, YES! I'v even had someone say is that one of those European Shepards? I knew what they meant, I said, no all those shepard variations is not true, there is really only the German Shepard, the rest is to make'em sound fancy <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> COL Nathan R. Jessup for President
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