 homeopathic treatment for pyometria vs spaying
#73034 - 04/22/2005 06:03 PM |
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Anybody have any experience treating pyometria homeopathically vs spaying. I have a 19 month old GSD bitch that is on day 20 of her heat cycle that has fever and foul odor from her vagina. Vet says spay, breeder says antibiotic treatment to include neosporin/vinigar dush for 3 days will clear it up. Breeder is purely homeopathic (PHD in animal nutrition) and has been right about many things, but I would love some reassurance from anybody with personal experience.
So, any of you breeders with several bitches over the years have any experience? If so I would love your opinion.
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Jeffrey
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#73035 - 04/22/2005 06:37 PM |
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Jeffrey, I'm not a breeder but I have experience as a vet tech for almost 8 years and have seen over a dozen bitches with pyometra. All but one was spayed and had no trouble.... the homeopathic one wasn't spayed and was treated with anti-biotics and anti-immflammatory drugs and died about a week later. It was an 8 month old 130# St. Bernard. I know that isn't a good statistic to base a decision on but hopefully some other forum members can share some info.
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#73036 - 04/22/2005 07:38 PM |
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I'll say from a scientific standpoint that homopathy is like astrology - it's total and absolute nonsense.
Have you ever really looked at the claims of homopathy? They talk about distilling the "essence" of something by doing the *exact* opposite of what works on a chemical and biological basis by diluting something to parts per million. It's just hooey, and the only effect it has on humans is a placebo effect ( like the doctor giving a patient sugar pills to get well ). Since dogs don't have the conceptional skills to believe in faith healing, the animal homopathy "specialists" are just treating the ego of an uninformed owner/ consumer.
You'll have the exact same effect in curing your dog by just lighting the money on fire that you'd give to the homopath. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />
Sorry, 100% scam.
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#73037 - 04/22/2005 08:00 PM |
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maybe I'm not understanding the word homeopathic, but I'm actually looking at any alternative to spaying. In researching the internet, it seems there are a few vets that actually arent buying into "you have to spay" and are treating with antibiotics. Being an anti-immunization and BARF believer myself, I am suspicious of most veterinarians as they have a history of harming our dogs for a profit.
I am actually wondering now if she even has pyometria as she is eating well, and went out to play with the other dogs earlier...hmmm I guess we will have to wait on the labs and the response to antibiotics.
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#73038 - 04/22/2005 08:45 PM |
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The only alternative that I am aware of to spaying is prostglandin therapy to drain the pyometra. You would need to find a repro vet to do this, as most garden variety vets will simply want to spay. That is all they know. Prostglandin is a hormone that will cause contractions expelling the pus.
http://www.workingdogs.com/doc0099.htm
It is not homeopathic.
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#73039 - 04/26/2005 03:44 AM |
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An antibitic treatment should fix it.So I'll go with antibiotics.If she is going into the same conditions,homeopathic treatment can help,but it will probably be a mixture of different "medicins".
Isn't there a homeopathic vet in your area? Or otherwise a hom.vet on the internet? The medicins needed depend on wich form or in wich degree she has it.
Bitches that are givven shots to prevent the heatcycle or are in false pregnancies have a higher risk to get pyometra.
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#73040 - 04/26/2005 04:33 AM |
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Pyometra is a serious infection. Systemic infections can cause DEATH. It is not something to be taken lightly. Most all cases can not be cured with a few pills.
The shots that delay heat cycles DO NOT cause pyometra, in fact they prevent the opportunity from arising. They do, however, cause puppy vaginitis to return. Puppy vaginitis is not a health threat and does not lead to pyo.
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#73041 - 04/26/2005 07:19 AM |
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I re-read the post again,and you say she has already a fever.The only advice is go to the vet rightaway.I think the stage of homeopathic treatment is long gone.
This can like Deanna says live treatening.
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#73042 - 04/26/2005 08:55 AM |
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thanks for the info, good news, labs came back, and she only has a localized vaginal infection, no pyometra. Antibiotics for a couple weeks.
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#73043 - 04/26/2005 10:05 AM |
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I think you are asking the wrong question here. You are asking CAN it be treated. You need to be asking if it SHOULD be treated. Modern medicine has allowed us to keep alive and breed dogs with compromised immune systems, and many other problems that are ruining the breed. Something has to go seriously wrong for a dog to get a life-threatening infection. Do you really want pups out of a dog that messed up? I don't. I had a female with pyometra, and after treating it I promised myself I would spay all future dogs that had it. Why? Not only is the treatment dangerous and painful, but I feel that it is a symptom of a much larger problem in most cases. Considering how many dogs have normal heat cycles, it is easy enough to breed dogs that don't have to go through this hell.
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