I loved the video and kudos to Ed for his great commentating! I tried what Ed suggested and started doing "Into My Arms" at home, on the walk, and during the drive work. My 14 month GSD is a bit apprehensive coming into my arms. She is most apprehensive when the tug or ball is in her mouth. I have to hold her in place with the leash pulled away from her head to get my one hand stroking down her back, but the other hand can't wrap around her neck because it is occupied. What can be done to ease her into this process? Any other suggestions besides just keep trying? I am using my voice: "Come to me", "That's fine", but she wiggles out in 2 seconds.
First you need to figure out why she doesn't want to stay in your arms. You mentioned that it's when she has the ball or tug. Will she stay if she doesn't have the tug or ball? Do you "out" her from this position? Is it maybe because she feels conflict over the impending "out"?
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I had a female like this - Anna. You need to train this without the prey item - in your house - not on the training field. When the dog squirrels ADD PRESSURE TO THE DOG - teach it that squirrling results in PRESSURE ad standing calm is a nice place. This must become an obedience command. In the beginning you do not need to hold the psotion long - its like a down stay.
Teach the dog PRESSURE OUT OF THE ARM and NICE SWEET TALK IN THE EAR WHEN IN THE ARM. This is a simplt clear concept that they understand
Ed, I will try your suggestion without the prey for a while. I will keep her in my arms by squeezing or grabbing harder and speak calmly if she stays.
I do have another dog that was one at the time that I brought her into the house. I am wondering if he had an affect on the apprehensive behavior. He is a male Siberian Husky.
my dog fara had the same problem with balls or tugs in her mouth but she had no problem coming to me without them. you can use slight jerks until she is in your arms. it might take weeks for the dog to come to you. You can also play with the dog after she is calm so she knows that coming to you is fun, not only compulsion. be patient and good luck with your training.
happy training,
She is now coming into my arms without a problem during the day when there is no prey. However, when it is time to do the drive work, she has gotten worse! Whenever I say "into my arms" or "come to my arms", she drops the ball and so I can never transition into the actual "into my arms" stage. What am I doing wrong? I am getting very frustrated...
Maybe the use of a second handler would help. He or she could aid you by working the leash, so your dog can be walked faster, in a tight circular pattern that promotes the holding of the prey item. This second handler could steer your dog right into the "Come Into my arms" position. This pattern may not give your dog time to drop the prey item before he reaches your hold. I think I saw something similar to this done in one of Ed’s video with Bernhard Flinks in it.
I have now tried that technique couple of times and will try it out today, too. I have started watching "Preparing you dog for the helper" video and have actually seen this problem on tape. After I did many sessions with her without the prey, she has learned now to actually walk into my arms as soon as I give the command.
I am still, however, having real issues with her not coming into my arms with the tug in her mouth. I have probably succeeded only a couple of times and actually got to pet her in the "arms" position with the tug in her mouth. I think I might actually make a trip down to the schutzhund club to see if they can help me out... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />
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