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#7692 - 12/04/2003 08:29 PM |
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For you K-9 handlers who have experienced this problem. My new PSD (in training, 14 mo old GSD)likes to spin in circles back in his cage as we are driving down the road. When I stop the vehicle, he sits and looks out the window. When i start up again, he starts this spin a rooney stuff. He has just started doing this the last 4 weeks.
My prior PSD would always just sit in the back and keep an eye on everything going on around, either bark or growl, depending on the situation.
The new PSD is high energy and always wanting to do something. Is this something he should grow out of as he matures or something I just need to get use to???
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Re: New PSD spins like a globe.
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#7693 - 12/04/2003 09:21 PM |
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Mark,
I've found that spinning is not an uncommon behavior in high drive dogs - I've owned two GSD's with that habit, and tho it was a little irritating at times, they worked just fine.
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Re: New PSD spins like a globe.
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#7694 - 12/04/2003 09:27 PM |
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Mark, I'm not a K9 handler but I've seen quite a few working terriers that were spinners when the truck starts moving. Like Will said, They still work fine although I've never seen one that got better. I think it's just the excitement of knowing they are going hunting. After a long day in the field, most (not all) would be a lot calmer.
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Re: New PSD spins like a globe.
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#7695 - 12/04/2003 10:10 PM |
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I wouldn't worry about it at all. My 1st gsd is now a PSD, and she would chase the oncoming traffic down the length of her available space in our van!! She would also spin at the door if I let her get away with it, and her mother did too.I saw her mom on several occasions and she ALWAYS spun like crazy...
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Re: New PSD spins like a globe.
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#7696 - 12/05/2003 01:37 AM |
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Mark,
I have the very same problem with my 5yoa psd. While driving he is constantly doing circles, drives me up a wall. When parked, he sits and watches or lies down.
My main problem is that when it comes time to actually work after a code run he is sometimes spent from the constant movement in the kennel. I blame myself somewhat for this problem because while in the initial 400hr school I felt he was too laid back during scenario training with the vehicle so I pumped him up to get him ready for the work. It haunts me now.
sometimes when I cant stand it anymore I leave the lead on him and feed it thru the bars where I can keep him from doing doughnuts. As much as it drives me bonkers, I would rather have that than a big furry log who looks to be just along for the ride.
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#7697 - 12/05/2003 05:26 AM |
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Howard is right about the alternative. Sometimes there just isn't time to get the less energetic dog alert and stimulated before a deployment.
I'd love to have a dog that sat quietly, watched carefully and was ready for anything all at the same time. I'd also love to have a son who loves to mow the lawn and mop the floor! Just isn't going to happen.
I say let your dog enjoy his/her shift and enjoy the feeling of always being ready. Don't worry about your dog wasting energy. It's the excess that the dog is bleeding off. The dog should have plenty of juice left for deployments if you channel that energy correctly.
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#7698 - 12/06/2003 01:11 AM |
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John,
My partner, Roscoe has hips rated OFA Excellent. My concern though is that all the activity in the confined space of the kennel will cause hip or joint damage eventually. Have you run across anything like that or am I just being a mother hen? Howard
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Re: New PSD spins like a globe.
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#7699 - 12/06/2003 09:25 AM |
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Originally posted by Mark Addison:
For you K-9 handlers who have experienced this problem. My new PSD (in training, 14 mo old GSD)likes to spin in circles back in his cage as we are driving down the road... Have you tried covering the kennel so that he cant see out the windows at all? It could be that in his mind he is "chasing" everything he is seeing go by. When you stop, nothing is going by the window and he can sit still. Give it a try by covering all the windows (front, back, sides) and see if he still does it. Give it a little while because he may also have an initial response to the movement.
John
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#7700 - 12/06/2003 10:40 AM |
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Thanks for all the replies. I have no doubt he will perform the job, even after creating a mini-whirlwind in the rear. But as you say, it is bothering - especially when you haven't been exposed to it before. I will give the covering an attempt.
Just as a side snicker - has anyone tried re-doing the handle on their manual ice cream maker and then take the dog for a ride, until the homemade ice cream is ready??
Thanks
Mark Addison
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#7701 - 12/06/2003 01:10 PM |
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John,
During formal training I cover all the windows with towels and a sunshade for the windshield because the dog works up a froth and wears himself out. All my fellow handlers have plenty of choice jabs they throw at me. As far as covering the windows while on patrol, I think our risk management person would have something to say about that....Howard
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