Just a few quickies...

How do you teach food refusal? At what age?
Does food refusal include grass?
What other details should be considered?

Thanks...

I would be interested to know about this too.
Teaching the dog to refuse food from strangers probably is very challenging.

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I would be interested to know about this too.
Teaching the dog to refuse food from strangers probably is very challenging.

Yes it is, my dog will refuse food from anyone in my family until I give him an eat command, then yesterday I went to the Schutzhund club I mentioned in another post n my dog took a piece of hotdog from the trainer without a problem <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

I'd like to find a way to train this without requiring an eat command when *I* give him food, I don't want to have to say "Eat" everytime I hand my dog a treat, unfortunately I don't have many people that can help me on this.

AN old but hard methode is the one with the mousetraps. Let someone who is unfamiliar with the dog set some mousetraps on a certain route. After this you go walking with you're dog on the same route. the dog finds the first mousetrap eats the food and... You tell him that he's a bad dog and continue your walk. at the second mousetrap you'll know if you're dog is smart. if he refuses it you take the mousetrap and praise the dog and give hime the food.

Does it work? My father was back in the sixties a barber and worked rather late. It was high summer and the neighbours had butchered a cow and asked my father if they could trow the head over the wall for the dog. My father agreed. This was in the morning. As it was a few days befor the vacations started he was rather bussy and forgot all about the head. At 23.00 h he went to see his dog and noticed the head. around it at aproximatly half a metre was a circle where the concrete was dark from themoist from the dogs paws. he hadn't touched. but when he was allowed.....

Greetings


Johan

Just correct him when he want's to take food (from ground or from someone else) and don't ever let him take food from anyone (don't do that 'ok, now you can take food from him').

There are many methods and all come down to same thing - dog is corrected when he want's to take food, just remember that what works for one dog may be too much or too little for the other one.

There is food refusal excercise in KNPV (food ofered by helper while handler is out of sight, and refusal of food that is scattered on the trainig field). Ed has article about it on his site - http://www.leerburg.com/knpv5.htm

What we have done is; i offer food to dog that is lying down with handler out of sight (handler can see the dog) and moment the dog starts to sniff the food handler comes and corrects dog (dog must know correction comes from handler so no e-collar, because dog might attack helper and that is no no in this excercise).

The KNPV method described there (there are many ways) is a way. Does anyone else on this board do it differently? How? At what age? Does it include grass?

No...I'm not joking...grass.

PSD owners/handlers, protection sport competitors, PPD owners, trainers...do you food /poison proof your dog? How? At what age? Does it include grass? Any tricks if you have a multiple dog home, where one's a pup?

This is kind of tricky training, is it not? Specially if you use food rewards...right?

Can you please add some variety ingredients to this otherwise unidimensional meal?!

Believe me...I wouldn't ask if I wasn't interested... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

I was taught in the remote past as Johan had mentioned, although I tend use to go out of the dog's view and use an E collar more often nowadays.

ASR has food refusal as a part of one of it's exercises, but I think that any dog that is being considered for ppd work should undergo this training as part of it's core requirements.

Will.... do you ever see any food refusal conflict when you are using food drops in tracking? I use food quite a bit with track training problems and am curious how the two would mesh.

I use a ritual to prepare the dog for tracking ( and a ritual for OB and protection also ) and it's always worked to let the dog know that he's expected to eat on the training track. I could see how a sensitive dog might have a little problem there, but I train thick-headed dimwits, so it's always worked for me so far. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />