Andres Martin wrote 06/22/2005 11:11 AM "Into my arms" #77134 - 06/22/2005 11:11 AM
Andres Martin Webboard User Reg: 06-15-2005 Posts: 264 Loc: Offline	I´ve looked for this but can't find it...Much appreciate someone pointing me in the right direction. What's it about? What is/are the objectives? Thanks...
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david perlich wrote 06/22/2005 11:15 AM Re: "Into my arms" [Re: Andres Martin ] #77135 - 06/22/2005 11:15 AM
david perlich Webboard User Reg: 02-03-2005 Posts: 171 Loc: dfw tx Offline	still extreamly new to this so bear with me. into your arms is used as a calming excersise. put the dog into drive(ball tug what ever) and than play tug with em after you let him win bring him into your arms,and than almost immeadiatly start the game again, slowly build up time in your arms. this teaches him that 1 being in your arms and near you is a good thing, 2 helps releave some stress from fighting you. ok guys bash me if i am wrong
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Bob Scott wrote 06/22/2005 08:12 PM Re: "Into my arms" [Re: Andres Martin ] #77136 - 06/22/2005 08:12 PM
Bob Scott Moderator Reg: 06-14-2002 Posts: 7417 Loc: St. Louis Mo Offline	It's explained in the Flinks video, "Drive Focus and Grip". I used it to teach my dog that he could come to me with the ball and not worry about it being taken from him. The stress is usually the dog worried about loosing the ball, not from fighting you. Actual fighting is NEVER done by the handler of the dog. It is also used to help teach the dog to have a firm, calm grip. old dogs LOVE to learn new tricks
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John DeKruyff wrote 06/22/2005 08:30 PM Re: "Into my arms" [Re: Andres Martin ] #77137 - 06/22/2005 08:30 PM
John DeKruyff Webboard User Reg: 08-14-2001 Posts: 238 Loc: California Offline	It's also teaching your dog obedience to come into your arms.
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Mike J Schoonbrood wrote 06/22/2005 08:43 PM Re: "Into my arms" [Re: John DeKruyff ] #77138 - 06/22/2005 08:43 PM
Mike J Schoonbrood Webboard User Reg: 04-30-2005 Posts: 2784 Loc: Toronto, ON Offline	My dog either chews or drops his prey item, I haven't been able to fix this problem yet, any tips? I have the Drive & Focus DVD and have been doing exactly what it says, but unless I'm tugging on a toy with him, he either wants to drop it or chew on it. He's very mouthy.
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Major Iain Pedden wrote 06/22/2005 10:14 PM Re: "Into my arms" [Re: Mike J Schoonbrood ] #77139 - 06/22/2005 10:14 PM
Major Iain Pedden Webboard User Reg: 02-18-2003 Posts: 197 Loc: Virginia Offline	The purpose of the "command", and the exercise, is to build a trusting relationship with the dog. It relieves stress because it is teaching the animal that you aren't always out to take the prey item away. It enables you to soothe the dog while bonding with him. In the Flinks video, he uses it with dogs that are mouthy because the mouthiness is a reflection of the dog's anxiety over losing the prey item. He calms the dog, builds trust, and this in turn decreases the mouthing. I also interpreted this to be a method of developing the handler's control over the dog's drives. The handler should be able to put the dog into drive, and take the dog out of drive, with some degree of reliability. (This is probably a misnomer-what I think I was looking at was drive switching-prey to pack). This requires the dog to take his behavioral cues from the handler. It is extremely clear from the DVD footage that the "example" dogs on the tape (i.e. Itor and CJ) can maintain drive and focus based on direction from the handler. My posts reflect my own opinions, and not those of the Marine Corps or the United States.
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Andres Martin wrote 06/23/2005 09:21 AM Re: "Into my arms" [Re: Major Iain Pedden ] #77140 - 06/23/2005 09:21 AM
Andres Martin Webboard User Reg: 06-15-2005 Posts: 264 Loc: Offline	Thanks...very interesting. How does it fit into the big picture? What "command" is used? Is it done or encouraged? From the onset, or when prey guarding becomes more imprinted? On the ground, or elevated, or either/both? Is the prey item then taken away? HOw? Is "into my arms" part of "tug of war" games with the owner, or a result of winning an item from a decoy, or both? Are there any important subtleties, or behaviors to watch out for? What duration/behavior display is the expected result? I know I hate it when my wife asks too many questions...but I grin and bear it. PLease do the same... She's reading this as I write it, and threatening compulsion!
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Mike J Schoonbrood wrote 06/23/2005 09:35 AM Re: "Into my arms" [Re: Andres Martin ] #77141 - 06/23/2005 09:35 AM
Mike J Schoonbrood Webboard User Reg: 04-30-2005 Posts: 2784 Loc: Toronto, ON Offline	Quote: Thanks...very interesting. How does it fit into the big picture? What "command" is used? Is it done or encouraged? From the onset, or when prey guarding becomes more imprinted? On the ground, or elevated, or either/both? Is the prey item then taken away? HOw? Is "into my arms" part of "tug of war" games with the owner, or a result of winning an item from a decoy, or both? Are there any important subtleties, or behaviors to watch out for? What duration/behavior display is the expected result? I know I hate it when my wife asks too many questions...but I grin and bear it. PLease do the same... She's reading this as I write it, and threatening compulsion! I highly reccomend the DVD "Building Drive, Focus & Grip", it explains and demonstrates the whole "into my arms" exercise and will answer all of your questions. It took Ed a video to explain this exercise so it's very difficult to explain in writing. "Into my arms" is done during drive building exercises, what I personally do is pull the tug away from my dog just before he can bite down on it (it's becoming more challenging as his speed increases! But the video demonstrates a very good and efficient way to do this exercise), then I let him get it, play tug with him, then let him have it and use "into my arms" to calm him and let him know I'm not gonna take the toy, then go back into drive with him. Ofcourse, my dog is still mouthy, so maybe you're best off watching this on the DVD to get a feel for it, I just stuck it back in my DVD player for a refresher and see if I can better my methods somehow.
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Major Iain Pedden wrote 06/23/2005 10:04 AM Re: "Into my arms" [Re: Mike J Schoonbrood ] #77142 - 06/23/2005 10:04 AM
Major Iain Pedden Webboard User Reg: 02-18-2003 Posts: 197 Loc: Virginia Offline	http://www.leerburg.com/ubbthreads/postlist.php/Cat/0/Board/88 My posts reflect my own opinions, and not those of the Marine Corps or the United States.
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