Man, it just never ends. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />
And irresponsible owners are going to ruin it for *every* dog owner, especially those of the working breeds.
I have *never* been an advocate for BSL, nut I got to tell ya, I am beginning to change my mind about it.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2005/06/28/BAdog28.DTL

Exerpt:
"Five pit bulls under quarantine after attacks
Chuck Squatriglia, Chronicle Staff Writer

Tuesday, June 28, 2005

Five pit bulls remained under quarantine Tuesday following separate attacks in which children and other dogs were bitten, authorities said.

All of the incidents occurred within an hour of each other Monday and were the latest in a string of such attacks seen in the Bay Area in recent weeks.

In the most severe of the incidents, a 5-year-old boy's hand was bitten by as many as three male pit bull mix dogs on the 1400 block of Sunshine Court in East Oakland, said Sgt. Dave Cronin of the city's animal shelter. Neighbors rushed to help the boy, corralling the dogs in three yards by the time police arrived shortly after 6 p.m. The dogs, none of which had been neutered, were not aggressive when officers arrived and were confiscated by animal control officers...."

The remainder of the article is at the above weblink.




It really is getting to the point where I'm seeing the logic of sacrificing a breed to save many others. Sad that it's come to this. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

Will,
BSL is Breed Specific Legislation? It amazes me that people would want to keep dogs that have shown such agressive tendencies, the last one mentioned in the article had a rap-sheet longer than some gang-bangers. It's a shame I know many nice pits, there is a lady that is involved in pit rescue that trains her dogs where I train. Her's are wonderful stable dogs. Maybe the answer is not an outright ban on the breed but to require a CGC or equivelent title in order to register dogs over a year, and huge fines for unregistered dogs. Lets make owners be accountable and responsible for their dogs.

Yep, that's what BSL is. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

I agree, there are some *great* pits. But way too many are owned by idiots and the bad press for them is just horrible. It's totally the owners fault, but stupid politicans are going to use the law as a big ol' hammer and punish the innocent and guilty alike. Which just sucks.

I'd be a big fan of *huge* fines, like confiscating property that had unregistered Pit Bulls on it - that'd bring a halt to the problem fast.

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It really is getting to the point where I'm seeing the logic of sacrificing a breed to save many others. Sad that it's come to this.

By this comment do you mean getting ride of Pitt-bulls to save dogs like GSD or AB dogs? Because, if that is what you are saying I agree.
These dogs are trash, there bread bad and by junkys in the ghetto. There bread for "want-a-bes" and dumbasses that fight them. People buy these dogs for a "tuff guy" image. The owners of these dogs cant take care of them selfs let alone train or feed a dog. They end up becoming backyard mutts and strays. The pitt-bull line as a hole is a joke. There is years and years of bad blood all over the streets. Here in TN we dont even hold them, as soon as we pick them up if they have no tags there juiced. There here by the hundreds, I mean people have no idea how many shit-bulls are running around the streets of Nashville. The more we kill the more just keep poping up by the groves. And for you pitt-lovers, dont feel bad. The dogs we put down are mutts, flee bitn, starving to death dogs, some have rabies and some are tottaly messed up in the head, most are beond fixing and really dont need to be put back into the street.

You know what the sad thing is too. There are few dogs that can work like a good pitt. Infact, I have never seen a dog work as good as a Pitt in OB and protection.

Dave.

No there is no logic in sacraficing a breed to save others. The one thing that makes this country great are our freedoms.
Laws should be tougher & enforced 100% of the time.

That alone would cut down on the number of people owning dangerous dogs.

What amazes me is the amount of people that are freaked out about my GSD, or even my friends super friendly sweet great dane, but own pitbull's themselves. All I ever hear about is pit's doing this, pit's doing that, it's insane, and these people are terrified of other large dogs? I even got asked to leave a public playground that I was at with my friends and their kids because "your shepherd might scare kids and make parents feel uncomfortable" - I left, came back 5 minutes later when I realized what BS that all was, I mean, there was a poop bag dispenser 20ft away from me and she was telling me dogs arent allowed there!?? So I parked my butt on a bench over on the side... the parents that came up to me all thought it was BS too that I was asked to leave, and all the kids seemed to refer to GSD's as "dog's that help people". This cute little girl, maybe 7 years old, stuck to me like glue constantly talking about how much she loved GSD's and all the SAR dogs she'd seen on TV etc etc. At least someone's educating their children properly.

I don't think that banning Pit Bulls is the answer because it is an owner problem and if they cant get a pit they will get another breed of dog maybe it will be Mals next. Who knows. The laws should be tougher and fines increased.
David, you are a moron and I can't even respond to your post, but maybe they should put you to sleep instead of the dogs.

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David, you are a moron and I can't even respond to your post, but maybe they should put you to sleep instead of the dogs.

Hey, I dont make the rules. I just get payed to inforce them. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Dont blame me, blame the TN law makers or the owners that breed these dogs.

But anyway Paula, if you want please feel free to PM me with your address and shipping info and phone number ext ext. I have a contract set up with Fed-ex shipping I get 75% off over night ships. I will be more then happy to send all the pitt-bulls to you, so you can take care of them. They will make great pets for your kids or family members, maybe you can give one to your mom, or co-workers. Christmas is coming you know. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Dave.

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I dont make the rules. I just get payed to inforce them. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

I think the problem that's annoying people isn't so much that you are enforcing law - it's how much pleasure you seem to take in doing so and how quickly you jump to this option. But let's avoid another locked thread please and stick to the subject on hand.

Eliminating a breed will be incredibly tough to do, lets say, hypothetically - pitbulls are now illegal - so are drugs, so is owning an unregistered weapon in some areas, etc etc - there will always be people out there who will either hide the fact that they own this dog and you'll be killing off the "good" dogs and be left with ONLY the ones that SHOULDN'T be out there. Not only that, but they will be treated even worse than they already are because now they need to be kept out of sight their entire lives so will probably never see the light of day, on top of that, the price of getting a pit will skyrocket because they will become a rare breed to own and their desirability by all the wrong people will shoot thru the roof, thus creating a whole new black market for people to handle in.

Hi mike.

Okay, lets say Im wrong and I might be wrong, I have been befor. What should be done with the dogs that are taken in that are strays or homless? I would be more then happy to give dogs away to people who could care for them. But, it just seems to me that these dog need so much spec. care that most people would not have the know how, or time to care for them. I understand alot of places nudder dogs, but that only stop reproduction, what about dogs that are really, really mean? I like Pitts, I really like them. I have owned them, But, it was not backyard crap Pitts.

So, in your guys opinions what should be done about the bad ones? Should we really keep the bad ones alive? Is there really a place for the bad pitts? Or any really bad dog for that matter. Im open for any thing.

Dave.