Vet says NO raw egg
#79283 - 07/19/2005 01:02 PM |
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Ive been feeding my 6 month old and 2 yr. old 1 raw egg each a day. Well, I took my pup in to the vet to get fixed and she says No raw eggs. She also said that I should take my 6 month old off Canidae and put him on a Science Diet puppy. When I asked her to explain why she couldnt explain other then saying puppy for is just made for puppies.
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#79284 - 07/19/2005 01:03 PM |
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Yes, Science Diet probably wrote the animal nutrition course they took and the vet makes good money off of the product.
Pet food companies invest a lot of money in vet schools. I doubt many vets get unbiased nutritional training.
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#79285 - 07/19/2005 01:05 PM |
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Yeah, say "Thanks for the advice Doc" then go home and keep doing what you're doing and don't discuss it again with your Vet. Science Diet is sold through Vet clinics, Vets make money off it, Science Diet pays for a lot of seminars and even helps put a few people through school.
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#79286 - 07/19/2005 01:09 PM |
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I agree completely with the previous posts. Your vet is probably promoting Science Diet for his or her own reasons, not because it is the best choice for your dog. Also, I feed my GSD raw egg several times a week with no problems at all. As a matter of fact, now that she is on an all natural diet, she is the healthiest she has ever been.
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#79287 - 07/19/2005 01:15 PM |
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Compare the ingredients between science diet and canidae, there is none. Canidae is a much better quality food than SD. I'd just not discuss what I fed to my vet then, or find a vet who didn't oject. My vet doesn't agree with raw, but she doesn't discourage me from it either.
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#79288 - 07/19/2005 01:22 PM |
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I read the ingredient list on a Science Diet package once. Puh-leeze!
If "beef" or "chicken" or "lamb" (and I don't mean "byproducts") isn't the first ingredient, meaning the primary ingredient, the why would we ever buy it for a healthy animal? I know dogs are omnivores and can actually survive on a grain-based diet, but no real animal nutritionist I have ever read says that it's GOOD for them.
I also know that animals with protein problems (such as kidney disorders) have different requirements. But we're discussing healthy animals here, right?
But it's the commercial food industry that deluges vets with their "info," and vets see these so-called studies and comparisons to the exclusion of everything else. Small companies making real food can't hire reps to visit every vet practice and send out gigantic mailings and stock the vets' shelves the way S.D. et al can.
We have to learn and read for ourselves, and keep asking those questions until the vet answers it to your satisfaction. Maybe the vet will stop and say "Wait a sec; what DOES this mean?"
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#79289 - 07/19/2005 01:27 PM |
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Maybe different types of Science Diet have different ingredients, but I read the ingredient list on one Science Diet package once.
Puh-leeze! If "beef" or "chicken" or "lamb" (and I don't mean "byproducts") isn't the first ingredient, meaning the primary ingredient, the why would we ever buy it for a healthy animal?
I know dogs are omnivores and can actually survive on a grain-based diet, but no real animal nutritionist I have ever read says that it's GOOD for them.
I also know that animals with protein problems (such as kidney disorders) have different requirements. But we're discussing healthy animals here, right?
But it's the commercial food industry that deluges vets with their "info," and vets see these so-called studies and comparisons to the exclusion of everything else. Small companies making real food can't hire reps to visit every vet practice and send out gigantic mailings and stock the vets' shelves the way S.D. et al can.
We have to learn and read for ourselves, and keep asking those questions until the vet answers it to your satisfaction. Maybe the vet will stop and say "Wait a sec; what DOES this mean?"
Do you approve of the ingredient list? Then go through it with the vet. Yikes, I sound preachy.......sore point of mine! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
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#79290 - 07/19/2005 01:33 PM |
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I know dogs are omnivores and can actually survive on a grain-based diet, but no real animal nutritionist I have ever read says that it's GOOD for them.
Dogs are not omnivores in the same sense of the word as we are, though. They cannot digest grains and veggies in their raw state as we can. These things have to be 'pre-digested' in order for them to be able to process them at all, and even then, most of it still ends up as waste.
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#79291 - 07/19/2005 01:37 PM |
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Absolutely correct -------- so the products which list cheap grain first and then are pushed at the vets' offices really blow me away.
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#79292 - 07/19/2005 01:43 PM |
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Kristen brings up another excellent point: Wolves ate animals. They also devoured the plant-based materials in the animals' digestive systems. They did not evolve a raw-plant digestive system.
When people take the raw-meat or modified raw diet to the extreme of adding raw plant material, they aren't thinking (in my opinion) about how dogs evolved.
Yes, they have systems that can process plant material, but unless you're trying to add bulk to fill up an overeater and to pass through as waste, then it has to be, as Kristen says, "pre-digested." That might mean well-cooked or it might mean lightly cooked with enzymes added. But the simplistic "wolves ate raw food; raw food is perfect" doesn't really address the whole issue.
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