marcel steenkist wrote 09/01/2005 01:51 AM cadaver dog training #83628 - 09/01/2005 01:51 AM
marcel steenkist Webboard User Reg: 08-31-2005 Posts: 3 Loc: Ireland Offline	I would like to train cadaver dogs, and become a trainer where is the best place to go in the US with my dog. there are no training schools re same in ireland. I hope someone can give me an adress
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Nancy Jocoy wrote 09/01/2005 07:12 AM Re: cadaver dog training [Re: marcel steenkist ] #83629 - 09/01/2005 07:12 AM
Nancy Jocoy Webboard User Reg: 05-03-2003 Posts: 924 Loc: Offline	Both of these folks have a good bit of respect for cadaver training. Both are NOT cheap to work with. http://www.cadaverdog.com http://www.jonnijoyce.com Go ahead and buy THe Cadaver Dog Handbook -- they do recommend psuedoscent in addition to more traditional training aids, which is controversial to many but it is a pretty comprehensive book. The book comes with the course offered by the authors so don't buy it if you go to one of their seminars. They do not offer a lot of them these days. There is also an OPEN board on yahoo groups called k9forensics. It is a large group and there may be folks there who can help you.
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Ed Frawley wrote 09/01/2005 07:38 AM Re: cadaver dog training [Re: marcel steenkist ] #83630 - 09/01/2005 07:38 AM
Ed Frawley Administrator Reg: 07-11-2001 Posts: 2112 Loc: Offline	I sell a pretty good book - http://www.leerburg.com/959.htm called Deaths Acre - By Dr. Bill Bass and Jon Jefferson 293 Pages - it's only $14.00 Vs $60.00 for the book on of these people listed. Frawley@leerburg.com http://www.leerburg.com
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marcel steenkist wrote 09/01/2005 01:35 PM Re: cadaver dog training [Re: Ed Frawley ] #83631 - 09/01/2005 01:35 PM
marcel steenkist Webboard User Reg: 08-31-2005 Posts: 3 Loc: Ireland Offline	thanks nancy and ed, i shall certainly follow up those recommendations. ed if you ever decide to bring out a cadaverdog training video or dvd, i,ll be your first customer. thanks marcel
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Nancy Jocoy wrote 09/01/2005 03:17 PM Re: cadaver dog training [Re: marcel steenkist ] #83632 - 09/01/2005 03:17 PM
Nancy Jocoy Webboard User Reg: 05-03-2003 Posts: 924 Loc: Offline	From what I understand, it is not significantly different than training a drug or bomb dog ....but those here who have done that can speak to that. I think Ed has a lot on that. Most people want a passive alert for obvious reasons and it is a bit harder to train passive than active alert.
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David Morris wrote 09/02/2005 01:46 PM Re: cadaver dog training [Re: Nancy Jocoy ] #83633 - 09/02/2005 01:46 PM
David Morris Webboard User Reg: 11-28-2002 Posts: 570 Loc: North Carolina Offline	I disagree. Stop making excuses for your dog and start training it!
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Lou Castle wrote 09/02/2005 08:07 PM Re: cadaver dog training [Re: David Morris ] #83634 - 09/02/2005 08:07 PM
Lou Castle Webboard User Reg: 07-15-2001 Posts: 563 Loc: Offline	David can you be a bit more specific? What is it that you disagree with? Lou Castle has been kicked off this board. He is an OLD SCHOOL DOG TRAINER with little to offer.
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David Morris wrote 09/03/2005 07:28 AM Re: cadaver dog training [Re: Lou Castle ] #83635 - 09/03/2005 07:28 AM
David Morris Webboard User Reg: 11-28-2002 Posts: 570 Loc: North Carolina Offline	I dont think its harder to train a passive alert than an agresive alert.Some times its easier to train a passive.Sometimes it takes alot of work to build a good agressive indication. Stop making excuses for your dog and start training it!
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Lou Castle wrote 09/03/2005 11:54 AM Re: cadaver dog training [Re: David Morris ] #83636 - 09/03/2005 11:54 AM
Lou Castle Webboard User Reg: 07-15-2001 Posts: 563 Loc: Offline	Thanks David. You could have been disagreeing with the part of the post that said that training for cadaver was similar to training for drugs or bombs. It's similar and of course, there are differences. The detection part is very much the same, but the desired alert may be different. Cadaver has many stages of decomposition, each with a different odor. I agree that either alert can be easy or difficult depending on the dog and the trainer. Lou Castle has been kicked off this board. He is an OLD SCHOOL DOG TRAINER with little to offer.
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Howard Knauf wrote 09/03/2005 09:53 PM Re: cadaver dog training [Re: Lou Castle ] #83637 - 09/03/2005 09:53 PM
Howard Knauf Webboard User Reg: 09-24-2003 Posts: 1555 Loc: Melbourne, Florida Offline	I agree <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />........On both points http://www.spacecoasttactical.com
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