Nancy Stinson wrote 09/04/2005 12:28 PM Media did not touch this #83724 - 09/04/2005 12:28 PM
Nancy Stinson Webboard User Reg: 12-26-2004 Posts: 164 Loc: Tennessee Offline	I try to keep up on the breed bans and any incidents that could be cause for the media to make things worse for us dog owners. A friend of the family has two grandkids, I believe they are 2 and 4. The kids have always been around the neighbor's dogs and never had any incidents previously. When the kids went over to the neighbors to see the dogs, the male dog attacked one of the kids. The dog bit the boy in the face, grabbing him by the cheeks. The child has lost several teeth, has over 200 stitches, and will be facing plastic surgery to try and repair the damage. The nerves in his face were also damaged. The bitch had come into heat, and I guess the male dog was not too happy with the kids getting near her. The problem is.. these dogs were not "pit bulls". They were Golden Retrievers. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />
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Mike Armstrong wrote 09/04/2005 01:15 PM Re: Media did not touch this [Re: Nancy Stinson ] #83725 - 09/04/2005 01:15 PM
Mike Armstrong Webboard User Reg: 08-06-2005 Posts: 615 Loc: San Diego, CA Offline	Here's a couple from the local San Diego paper, one from about 2 wks ago, the typical report, where a pit bull bit the 3-yr-old granddaughter of the owner: http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20050826/news_6m26briefs.html and a recent one about the bill that's now before the Governator that allows the banning of breeds. http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20050901/news_1n1devildogs.html It'd be nice if the proponents of these kinds of things could spend some time with the Ed Frawley's and Cesar Millan's of the world, but it ain't gonna happen. It'd interfere too much with the political posturing they love to do, e.g., some of the quoted comments in that article, plus what we've all seen on the news for the last week. Suppose you were an idiot. Suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself. -Mark Twain
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Emily Achenbach wrote 09/04/2005 05:18 PM Re: Media did not touch this [Re: Nancy Stinson ] #83726 - 09/04/2005 05:18 PM
Emily Achenbach Webboard User Reg: 05-01-2005 Posts: 71 Loc: Colorado Offline	where adults around to supervise?
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Jason Shipley wrote 09/04/2005 06:04 PM Re: Media did not touch this [Re: Emily Achenbach ] #83727 - 09/04/2005 06:04 PM
Jason Shipley Webboard User Reg: 05-13-2005 Posts: 220 Loc: northern Illinois Offline	The whole problem is that the media and the politicians are too PC to say that someone is too stupid to own a dog let alone have children. You always get the dog you deserve...
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Ed Frawley wrote 09/04/2005 06:07 PM Re: Media did not touch this [Re: Emily Achenbach ] #83728 - 09/04/2005 06:07 PM
Ed Frawley Administrator Reg: 07-11-2001 Posts: 2112 Loc: Offline	Things like this don't happen out of the blue - the owners either missed or ignored the warning signs and there ARE ALWAYS signs before an attack happens - ALWAYS !!!!! I have been collecting emails from people on dog bites - many of these make my blood boil. I plan on publishing them. Frawley@leerburg.com http://www.leerburg.com
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Anne Vaini wrote 09/04/2005 08:04 PM Re: Media did not touch this [Re: Jason Shipley ] #83729 - 09/04/2005 08:04 PM
Anne Vaini Webboard User Reg: 07-14-2005 Posts: 775 Loc: Wisconsin Offline	Quote: "The owner said he was down the street and heard screaming," DeSousa said. "By the time he got back, everything had already happened. How many kids have to be mauled before parents/dog owners will supervise/watch/leash/crate their dogs?
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Theresa Greene wrote 09/04/2005 08:27 PM Re: Media did not touch this [Re: Nancy Stinson ] #83730 - 09/04/2005 08:27 PM
Theresa Greene Webboard User Reg: 02-19-2005 Posts: 60 Loc: Offline	I hate to disillusion everyone, but once in a while this stuff just does sometimes happen. 98% of is stupidity, true. We have a police officers' dog in his back yard, bites his niece in the face. I doubt this guy was sloppy, or stupid. Nor was his dog. Once in awhile sh__ just happens. Can you imagine what this has done to him and K9 efforts in Portland, Oregon? Gresham police dog bites 5-year-old girl in the face Oregonian Portland Oregon Theresa Greene Theresa Greene
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Theresa Greene wrote 09/04/2005 08:30 PM Re: Media did not touch this [Re: Theresa Greene ] #83731 - 09/04/2005 08:30 PM
Theresa Greene Webboard User Reg: 02-19-2005 Posts: 60 Loc: Offline	Sorry, but this board is so judgemental. Instead of resting on your laurels and slamming people, try to help. You don't know the true circumstances, and papers don't print them. Once in awhile, try to remember if you've ever had any close calls. I have. Nobody is perfect. Sorry for the double post. Theresa Greene
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david perlich wrote 09/04/2005 09:26 PM Re: Media did not touch this [Re: Theresa Greene ] #83732 - 09/04/2005 09:26 PM
david perlich Webboard User Reg: 02-03-2005 Posts: 171 Loc: dfw tx Offline	i understand completely i mean think about the training that most of us do especially protection for that you have to build prey drive if you have small kids its really only a matter of time before you have a close call or worse. plan all you wil but sometime it happens. maybe not with this pup or your next but soon
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Greg Long wrote 09/04/2005 09:45 PM Re: Media did not touch this [Re: david perlich ] #83733 - 09/04/2005 09:45 PM
Greg Long Webboard User Reg: 02-09-2005 Posts: 59 Loc: Offline	A pet owner that does not train and has golden retrievers and their dog bites a kid is ignorant of responsible dog ownership.But a person that has and trains working dogs cant afford even a "close call".There is a big difference.The first is stupidity and the latter is irresponsible.If you have a working dog and then say "oh well!close calls happen!" then you dont need that kind of dog.A good handler/trainer knows that a close call or bad bite is possible but wont allow either to happen.Thats like almost shooting your hunting buddy in the woods by accident and then saying "oh well!It was bound to happen sometime!".Sheeeeez.
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