Hello Everyone this is my first post and would like your expert advise! I have a 10 week old GS pup who chases a ball but will not bring it back he runs abour 2 feet to the side of me and lays down and will not come back with it
any suggestions. I have all of Ed's tapes on training puppy's, I'd like to do Schutzhund work with him in future.
Thanks Deanna, I didn't know if at 10 weeks compulsion was the way to go? I have been doing the markers with him and it's working great, he always comes for a treat except when he has his ball.
The bigest mistake I see with teaching the retrieve to a young pup is distance. Sit on the floor/grass and only toss the toy a few feet. You need to stay in what I call, the area of influence. If the toy goes to far, often times the pup will loose interest in you by the time it gets to the toy. It's also much easier to use the line to "guide" the pup to you, as opposed to pulling/correcting it to you, if your close. The pup needs to learn that you are part of the game, not just the toy.
More thoughts. In the beginning, don't try to get the dog to "out" the toy. Swap it for a treat or another toy. If you take it from the pup every time it comes to you, that may create "out" problems later.
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The bigest mistake I see with teaching the retrieve to a young pup is distance. Sit on the floor/grass and only toss the toy a few feet. You need to stay in what I call, the area of influence. If the toy goes to far, often times the pup will loose interest in you by the time it gets to the toy. It's also much easier to use the line to "guide" the pup to you, as opposed to pulling/correcting it to you, if your close. The pup needs to learn that you are part of the game, not just the toy.
DING DING DING! I GET that!
Sometimes these threads can cause a big lightbulb moment in the brain of a special-training newbie. Thanks, Bob..........and you weren't even talking to me! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Retrieving is something I work on inside before going outside. I close all of the doors in my upstairs hallway, and sit at one end with food rewards. (the hall is only about 14ft long).
I toss the toy a few feet at first, gradually upping the ante. Just as the puppy grabs the toy and heads back (there is no where else to go), I say "bring the ____", and exchange the toy for a treat.
I have found this simple little foundation makes it easier to transition retrieving behavior to the great outdoors. I usually play this game 2-3 times per day for a week before taking it on the road, so to speak.
Bob thanks for the info, the distance thing really makes sence I will definetly try that and I was already using the treats to trade but what was happening is Niko would hear me drop the toy and come over instead of bringing the toy, I really tried to time it just so that he would be as close to me as possible before I showed him the treat, but the distance make much more sence. Thanks again <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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