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#85949 - 10/04/2005 08:23 AM |
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Jack is just getting to where he will actually tug a little bit with us with the rope toy, so I thought hey, if he tugs, I'll let him have the toy as a reward, but when I do that, he goes and 'hides' it somewhere (usually next to the porch in plain view) so then I have to go and get it from his 'hiding spot.' Should I just not let him take the toy/rag/whatever and just keep ahold of it myself?
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#85950 - 10/04/2005 08:38 AM |
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During play he may "win" but the last "win" has to be yours
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#85951 - 10/04/2005 09:00 AM |
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I always reward my dogs with a "win" at the end of the game.. (assuming they have a nice hard, deep grip on it) they carry off the tug like their little prize! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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#85952 - 10/04/2005 09:03 AM |
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Before I let him have it I always push it back in his mouth if he doesn't have it there already. So it doesn't matter that he runs off and hides it and I have to go and get it from the hiding place, then, as long as I end up with it at the end of playtime?
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#85953 - 10/04/2005 09:08 AM |
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#1 quit pushing it in his mouth for a deeper bite (if that is what you are saying) HE should be the one to counter, YOU should but pulling it (for want of a better word LOL!) and he will regrip himself.. then release.
Our playtime ends with the dog running off with his prize (or body slamming me with it to play more!) I never let the dogs lay down with it and start chewing on it, as long as they are running around with it they can keep it. When playtime is over I take it back and pop the dog back in their crate, but the active game itself should end with the dog winning..
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#85954 - 10/04/2005 09:14 AM |
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Ok, so I should just be trying to keep it away from him and just let him get it all on his own, then? He's still really tentantive about pulling against me, and if I pull too hard he will let go and then jump back on it. Most of the time he bites it with the front of his mouth or just kind of mid-way back. I was told to encourage a deep bite by placing the item further back if he didn't get it there the first time. Which is it? Oh, and I HAve been whisking the toy away from him if he lies down and starts chewing on it. At least I'm doing something right. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />
I need to start using a rag instead of the rope.
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#85955 - 10/04/2005 09:28 AM |
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One thing to consider is how new he is to your family. I like to give them some time before playing tug. Just something I do. I also like to put the tug on a line at first so it is not so close to me. He is also at an age where he might be starting to teeth. I would take my time here, he is still young and it is so tempting to get started. This age I like to do as much bonding as I can.
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#85956 - 10/04/2005 09:38 AM |
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I know I know I'm chomping at the bit here. LoL Maybe I'll just play fetch with him with the tennis ball on a string (it's like, 30 feet long LOL!) for now and not worry so much about his bite.
This evening, since hubby doesn't get off work until 10pm, I was planning on trying to do some simple stuff like working on "sit" some more and waiting at the door. I didn't feed him this morning so he'll be really eager for the treats. I'd like to work on "speak," but right now the only time he barks is if he's in the kennel or crate and I don't want to encourage barking in there, so I don't know what to do about that.
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#85957 - 10/04/2005 11:00 AM |
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Jeff is right, spend time bonding with the little man.
We actually tell all out club members who are new to working dogs NOT to play tug with their dogs at home at first. Most (unknowingly) create horrible bad habits, including a yucky grip by doing so.
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#85958 - 10/04/2005 11:29 AM |
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"Always" rewarding a dog with a win at the end of the game shuts off the drive by satisfying it. I believe that it's better to let the dog end while he's still interested in playing the game; that keeps the drive frustrated which is how drives are built up. "Always" doing almost anything is a mistake. Unless you're pattern training for a sport that is.
If your dog is a bit tentative about playing with you with the toy try attaching a piece of cord about 10' long to it. Toss it out in front of him and when he goes for it, use the cord to jerk it away. See how long you can keep it away from him. If you see that he's getting a bit discouraged at trying to get it let him have it. As he gets more confident in chasing it, shorten the rope a little at a time until you're holding it.
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