TracyRoche wrote 10/16/2005 02:18 PM help with titles #86999 - 10/16/2005 02:18 PM
TracyRoche Webboard User Reg: 06-30-2005 Posts: 252 Loc: Virginia Offline	I'm not quite sure how to word this question, but will do my best. I have a breed that is not often seen in Schutzhund trials in the US, yet which competes often in Europe (as well as French Ring, Belgian Ring and Monioring). We also do not have an FCI-based working club in the US. I notice that one can earn VPG or IPO titles at DVG trials, but my question is this: if we do not have a US-based FCI club, can one only get the VPG designation versus IPO? I'm new to all this and have imported a bitch from France, so she is FCI registered as well as now AKC registered. The second part of the question is that if she cannot earn an IPO title here in the US, would the VPG be recognized in Europe, or would she need to requalify overseas? If someone can point me in the right direction to get myself educated on this stuff, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks! T Tracy Roche VA
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Mike Russell wrote 10/16/2005 03:34 PM Re: help with titles [Re: TracyRoche ] #87000 - 10/16/2005 03:34 PM
Mike Russell Webboard User Reg: 09-26-2001 Posts: 706 Loc: Offline	Tracy, you can get both VPG & IPO titles in the US. If you trial through any of the big 3 organizations in the US and get either title under an FCI recognized judge, then the title is good anywhere. Mike Russell BANNED FROM THE LEERBURG BOARD
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Will Rambeau wrote 10/16/2005 04:00 PM Re: help with titles [Re: Mike Russell ] #87001 - 10/16/2005 04:00 PM
Will Rambeau Moderator Reg: 01-25-2003 Posts: 5983 Loc: Idaho Offline	Big three? SV, DVG, SchH USA? The Fetz dog: http://www.leerburg.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/79673/page/25
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Mike Russell wrote 10/16/2005 04:05 PM Re: help with titles [Re: Will Rambeau ] #87002 - 10/16/2005 04:05 PM
Mike Russell Webboard User Reg: 09-26-2001 Posts: 706 Loc: Offline	Quote: Big three? SV, DVG, SchH USA? SV isn't in the USA, you know that! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> I was referring to USCA, DVG, and WDA. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> Although 2 of them can't seem to get along. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Mike Russell BANNED FROM THE LEERBURG BOARD
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Will Rambeau wrote 10/16/2005 07:30 PM Re: help with titles [Re: Mike Russell ] #87003 - 10/16/2005 07:30 PM
Will Rambeau Moderator Reg: 01-25-2003 Posts: 5983 Loc: Idaho Offline	I know, I know... It was just a chance to rip on the equivalent of the girls softball team of SchH, otherwise known as the WDA. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> The Fetz dog: http://www.leerburg.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/79673/page/25
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Michele Moore wrote 10/16/2005 07:36 PM Re: help with titles [Re: Will Rambeau ] #87004 - 10/16/2005 07:36 PM
Michele Moore Webboard User Reg: 09-20-2004 Posts: 66 Loc: AZ Offline	Hey! I played girls softball and I think I am quite tough! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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Mike Russell wrote 10/16/2005 07:57 PM Re: help with titles [Re: Will Rambeau ] #87005 - 10/16/2005 07:57 PM
Mike Russell Webboard User Reg: 09-26-2001 Posts: 706 Loc: Offline	Quote: I know, I know... It was just a chance to rip on the equivalent of the girls softball team of SchH, otherwise known as the WDA. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Down here, some would take that as a compliment! The girls softball team at the local University is better than a lot of college baseball teams and has proven it!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Mike Russell BANNED FROM THE LEERBURG BOARD
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TracyRoche wrote 10/16/2005 08:27 PM Re: help with titles [Re: Mike Russell ] #87006 - 10/16/2005 08:27 PM
TracyRoche Webboard User Reg: 06-30-2005 Posts: 252 Loc: Virginia Offline	Mike, Thanks for your help! I was under the impression that one needed to belong to a parent club (FCI affiliate US clubs) to receive the IPO title. Since we don't have the split in Briards, we only have the AKC parent club. My goal is to bring her back to the homeland one day, so it helps to know that what we may accomplish here will not be for naught. T Tracy Roche VA
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Mike Russell wrote 10/16/2005 08:57 PM Re: help with titles [Re: TracyRoche ] #87007 - 10/16/2005 08:57 PM
Mike Russell Webboard User Reg: 09-26-2001 Posts: 706 Loc: Offline	Quote: I was under the impression that one needed to belong to a parent club (FCI affiliate US clubs) to receive the IPO title. Since we don't have the split in Briards, we only have the AKC parent club. AKC is the only FCI recognized registry in the USA, they are not a breed club much less a parent breed club. If you want to be "safe" about FCI recognition, I'd go with DVG...and you'd be able to compete at higher levels as well as represent the USA in Germany if your dogs do well enough. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> At the very least, I'd make sure that the judges you trial under are FCI judges to be on the safe side. SV judges are FCI recognized as are most DVG America judges (I believe, but don't quote me on that), however I'm not sure about USCA & WDA only judges. Mike Russell BANNED FROM THE LEERBURG BOARD
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jeff oehlsen wrote 10/17/2005 12:04 PM Re: help with titles [Re: TracyRoche ] #87008 - 10/17/2005 12:04 PM
jeff oehlsen Webboard User Reg: 11-20-2002 Posts: 1303 Loc: Colorado Offline	Quote:My goal is to bring her back to the homeland one day, so it helps to know that what we may accomplish here will not be for naught. How embarrassing to bring her back to france with a sissy IPO title. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> Have I mentioned my ringsport revolution? I am smarter than my dog, your just not.
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