being new to police or protection training in general I just want some professional opinions on these dogs. To me this is impressive but probably not to some of you. Just looking for some observations
Yeah those Mals are cool and we've seen it a hundred times, but the Boston Terrier pics and the Bud Light commercial was toooo cooooll. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
Hmm...I just love the exposed buckles on the decoy jacket - great way to break a dog's tooth. Plus the fool isn't even smart enough to close up his jacket all the way.
Of course, with the level of dogs they're working, I guess they feel fortunate if the dog actually bites the sleeve...
And what the h*ll are the decoy's doing presenting the bitesuit arm just like a SchH sleeve ( on page 5 & 6 ), I might ask?
Weak dogs on bad helpers. Just what the world needs more of.
Sorry...this is cr*p, complete and utter cr*p. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />
The whole point of a bite suit is to teach the dog to target the ENTIRE body. In other words, areas that the dog would normally NOT target while the decoy is wearing just a sleeve (legs, back, chest, upper arms, etc). If you are wearing a bite suit and just present the sleeve, why bother? Just wear a sleeve.
When a bite suit is used for much more than testing it becomes a prey item - as in locked in prey. When a trainer realizes this they move to the next level.
Nobody said anything about testing the dogs in the pictures you are seeing - the bitesuit pictures are from SDA trials which that is the reguired position to catch a dog (they are schutzhund orientated titles and schutzhund style catches) - I know how to use a bite suit in different styles and catch in various places - but when I am required to catch a certain way - I do as am told..
Oh - I am the helper in the majority of those pictures and thanks for the boston comments - that little dog can outwork a fair share of his larger counterparts... It was alot of fun working hte little thing - kevlarkennels.com owns the dog (in ohio).
Most of us know that it wasn't you that came up with that goofy idea. I actually commend you for going along with it. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
Seems a lot of focus on the suit used to promote pretty indiscriminate locations to bite.
But, look at Belgian Ring...the dog is expected to either bite the leg or the arm and the decoy knows before hand which one. The suites are designed more like a rack for two leg sleeves and two arm sleeves than a body bite suit. In fact try doing a shoulder bite on such suites and you'll have some nice puncture wounds.
Suit, sleeve, hidden sleeve, it makes little difference in the scheme of things.
SDA wants to bridge the gap between schutzhund and police?? Best get dogs working in muzzle, in at least part of the trial (and you will still need a trained experienced eye in the judge).
The Boston terrier??? A novelty and fun but hard to take seriously. I don't take my JRT seriously either in regards to protection work. Murderous on mice and birds though.
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Nobody said anything about testing the dogs in the pictures you are seeing - the bitesuit pictures are from SDA trials which that is the reguired position to catch a dog (they are schutzhund orientated titles and schutzhund style catches) - I know how to use a bite suit in different styles and catch in various places - but when I am required to catch a certain way - I do as am told..
Oh - I am the helper in the majority of those pictures and thanks for the boston comments - that little dog can outwork a fair share of his larger counterparts... It was alot of fun working hte little thing - kevlarkennels.com owns the dog (in ohio).
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