While training my 14 wk old GSD pup to sit, he will sometimes laydown in place after sitting for a few seconds. Should I put him back in the "sit" position or should I allow him to lay down? I think (!?) I should place him back in the proper sit position, but thought I'd better get some advice on this one.
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If you're trying to teach sit, then yes! You absolutely should place him back in the sitting position if he lays down, or prevent him from laying down in the first place by holding the leash up with just enough slack in it so that if he does try to lay down, it stops him. Don't correct him if he lies down, because at this point it doesn't sound like he understands the sit command 100%. Just place him back in position, release, and repeat.
At this point, I think you're waiting too long to reward him, so he's trying something else in hopes of getting the reward. Are you clicker training??
I would step back a little, so to speak, and not ask him to sit there for *quite* as long. If he starts to lie down after, say, 3 seconds, then reward at 2.5 seconds and release. Gradually work up to longer and longer.
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If you are teaching the "sit" command, once the dog has his butt on the ground you mark it and release. Any more than that and you are teaching stay, which is getting ahead of your self....kinda like now <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
Actually, the pup does have his "sit" down pretty well. It's when I take a few steps away that he'll occasionally "lay down". I'm not training the "stay" command because I want him to sit until released. Am I getting ahead of myself?? I'm new at this....
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If you are teaching the "sit" command, once the dog has his butt on the ground you mark it and release. Any more than that and you are teaching stay, which is getting ahead of your self......
This is what I thought, too: Sit means his butt has hit the ground in a sit position and you've marked it. "Sit" doesn't mean "sit until released" to me. As Jeff says, that's more like "stay." Just MHO.
Quote:the pup does have his "sit" down pretty well.
This is like when I was a "little bit" pregnant. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />
Do not do any work on stay until sit is perfect.
Actually, the pup does have his "sit" down pretty well. It's when I take a few steps away that he'll occasionally "lay down".
Terry,
Then don't take a few steps away. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Seriously, work duration and distance separately. Pick one when you start and stick with it.
If you decide you want to add distance, do it in micro steps. If you get the notion to move three inches, move just one. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> You may want to just start with a slight body lean away from the puppy. Observe closely and find the tolerance point. For a young puppy, any movement at all may be tough.
At some point you will see a lightbulb go off in the puppy's head, where they will realize "oh, I am supposed to stay here no matter what you do!" and you can progress a little more quickly.
Split split split...into the tiniest increments in the beginning, and remember to mentally separate distance and duration.
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