is this guy dumb or what?

No the handler is the stupid one. The world is filled with people who cannot read a dog and you cant blame this news annouyncer. This video has been going around for years - every time I see it I think how un-aware the - untrained the handler was.

This video was this on this on the most extreme videos show a couple weeks ago... the trainer was bragging about how lovable his dog is and how he takes her to schools and the kids love all over him... then… bite.

I think the audio on that video was added for effect because I didn’t hear the dog growl at all before he attacked but the signs were there.

I want to know what the guy was trying to do.. he looked to me like he was going to hug the dog or something..

Why? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

Is it normal to get cuddly with police dogs (or whatever that dog was)?

I had 4 K-9/Police officers on my street when I was growing up. Every kid in the neighborhood was told (repeatedly) that no matter how nice the dog looked, we weren't allowed to pet them. Not even when their handlers were there.

Maybe it was just cause we were kids.. or maybe cause we were all punks.. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

And being your resident dutch speaking translator, the text at the bottom of the screen explains the guy had to get 5 stitches <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

The newsman was leaning over the dog and putting his face into the dog's face. People tend to do that. I tell them - "DON'T LEAN OVER THE DOG"! I'll then go and lean over the top of them and ask them how they would like some stranger coming up and doing that to them or their kid.

I dunno.. didnt look like it was all that unwitting to me. IMHO he knew the dog was agitated - he looked extremely cautious and got more cautious with each movement, based on the dogs reactions..

Though I only watched it twice and it seemed to be little more than a blip. So maybe I missed something. Just seemed like he knew the dog was stiffening up.. to me..

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I tell them - "DON'T LEAN OVER THE DOG"!

LOL...I get an evil sort of pleasure in "educating" the more vertically challenged portion of humanity (I'm 6"1'.) When I come across someone who obviously doesn't understand what I'm trying to explain, I walk right up into their personal space, glare down and usually say something like, "Feels pretty uncomfortable, right? How do you think the dog likes it?"

This topic has already been discussed http://www.leerburg.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/4147553/page/0/fpart/1/vc/1 and yes the sound effects were added.

In light of this video, I would like to know a few things.

I always hear that, PPD's and/or Police K9's should not be aggressive to every stranger. They should be "accepting" of all people unless instructed otherwise. I don't mean they should be friendly but, they should be non-aggressive in normal circumstances. For example, you are walking in the park and a stranger begins to approach you to tell you how nice looking your dog is and/or wants to inquire about the dog. I get this information from people who sell and or breed working dogs. It's usually in thier mission statement or the educational or informative part of the sales pitch. You usually find this in the Q&A section for most websites who sell pre-trained working dogs. They will say things like "..a PPD is not a raging lunatic, they are not vicious crazed beasts.." and so on. That is not an exact quote but in so many words you will find this just about everywhere.

So my questions are;
1. How many people's dog's here that are trained for protection are "accepting of other unless instructed otherwise?" Will has said that not many people can get even close to his dog, my dog is the same way. There are 4 people my dog accepts with out incident, me, my wife, my vet and the guy I train with. What about you guys? How are your trained K9's with unfamiliar people? Do you have to cage your dog when you have company or put them outside?

2. What is a realistic expectation of a PPD's behavior around unfamiliar people, in your home or out and about? I'm talking close quarters, within 5-10 feet from the handler?

When I was watching that video (which I've seen previously) I was thinking to myself, My dog would never let someone get that close to me. Sometimes I wish he would, but then I weigh my choices; Have a dog that is sometimes friendly and accepting of strangers (and possibly be nice to the wrong person at the wrong time) or have a dog that isn't nice to anyone, and be certain that at anytime and in any situation, he is not going to be nice. Personaly I prefer the latter.

Your thoughts please.